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[其他] 大家是否觉得英国人越来越多了?! [复制链接]

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发表于 2012-4-28 19:58 |显示全部楼层
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Same here,,,爱尔兰人好多哇。。
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从来都这么多的英国人啦
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原帖由 aprilpoon 于 2012-4-27 16:30 发表
在哪里看到的移民数字英国是仅排在中国后面的,印度第三


打黑工的排名是中国美国,第三名就是英国

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我以前公司一个英国人跑澳洲来工作了5年半和LP又回去了, 只留了一双女儿在Sydney. 他说当初觉得澳洲工资高, 气候好, 生活适宜. 没想到生活成本居然比London还高. 他又有父母要照顾, 所以只能回英国.

我估计过几年也可能会有不少华人回流的.

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同感。澳村有恋英情节? 我倒是觉得英国人自我感觉挺好,不失时机地点一下“兄弟在英国的时候。。。”

口音很浓重,和英国人沟通极容易卡壳,update 一律发音 Opdate.

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最近几个礼拜接触了美国的,爱尔兰的,澳洲塔省转来悉尼的。
本来在工作中就接触到一些常驻澳洲的英国人,他们倒是来了有年头了。接触都很愉快。
这个爱尔兰的,来澳12年,曾在政府部门工作,据他自己说来之前也给爱尔兰政府做过类似的财经分析。
他也说是要回去把更多的人带到澳洲来。他也提到经济大环境的原因。
不时对自己英语为母语等优势而非常有优越感,因为我在场,所以话题是拿印度人代表亚洲族群,用第三世界国家泛指他看不起的国家的。
好似我们都是落后得第三世界国家过来的,所以要是有留澳的机会就会不择手段得留下来并觉得这里的生活好得和家乡的没法比。被我毫不留情得反驳了回去。
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原帖由 luvyrselfish 于 2012-4-28 23:09 发表
最近几个礼拜接触了美国的,爱尔兰的,澳洲塔省转来悉尼的。
本来在工作中就接触到一些常驻澳洲的英国人,他们倒是来了有年头了。接触都很愉快。
这个爱尔兰的,来澳12年,曾在政府部门工作,据他自己说来之前也给爱尔兰政府做过 ...

英国人的劣根性,顶楼主
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原帖由 ducaroga 于 24/4/2012 18:43 发表
原來澳洲政府提倡融入亞洲的方法,就是找英國打工仔來澳洲工作。

都是自己申请来的。原来的公司是一拨拨的英国人,还有爱尔兰的。
现在的公司发现,一半是美国人。

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你咋反驳的?

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你咋反驳的?


拿自生做例证,和他观点相驳斥。
俺们最早也得teenager的时候才开始日常用英语,他来了澳洲12年还带着爱尔兰口音呢(大言不惭的说,就这比例,中国人的语言能力已经超越了)
在澳洲都是外来人,甭以为你说个英文人家就把你当亲人(台湾人在内地说中文,鬼佬来中国打工,本质上都是外来的。语言可以是优势,但也有弊端。我们还懂另种外语,就看自己怎么拿捏了。)
他提的那些读chef, hairdressing的印度人只是一个国家的某部分人,代表不了整个国家。
就如同从中国大城市来的孩子也不觉得澳洲比家乡更先进,往往相反,更不会象他提到的印度人那样。

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原帖由 luvyrselfish 于 2012-4-30 11:14 发表


拿自生做例证,和他观点相驳斥。
俺们最早也得teenager的时候才开始日常用英语,他来了澳洲12年还带着爱尔兰口音呢(大言不惭的说,就这比例,中国人的语言能力已经超越了)
在澳洲都是外来人,甭以为你说个英文人家就把你当亲人 ...

请用英语说一遍,让我们学习一下,以后说不定能用上。
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原帖由 mi5 于 2012-4-26 20:43 发表
英国人多总好过亚非拉的人多吧.

你是那里来的?


这位兄弟肯定特别喜欢住诺贝尔公园这个区。

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请用英语说一遍,让我们学习一下,以后说不定能用上。


To be honest, I have no recollection of the entire conversation.
It’s actually more of a conversation than a speech.
Moreover, for the most part of the respond was implied, and it was carried out throughout the day.
For example, when he stayed back at the end of the day, I acted surprised for his “diligence”, which was a reflection of his poor work ethics.
After all, respect is earned. You can’t make a difference just because some speeches were made

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发现鬼子学会计的多了,以后会计不再是亚洲人的天下了,什么都抢,怎么能把他们赶出去呢

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同感。澳村有恋英情节? 我倒是觉得英国人自我感觉挺好,不失时机地点一下“兄弟在英国的时候。。。”

口音很浓重,和英国人沟通极容易卡壳,update 一律发音 Opdate.


sorry, 我想说很贴切,手机上发言多了个字。
他们就是这样说的,but =boot, bus = boos等。。有时候听了想笑。

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拣个笑,别介意。
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以后澳洲还是亚洲人的天下,白人生育率太低。

这边阿三中东人哪个不是一大家子的

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sorry, 我想说很贴切,手机上发言多了个字。
他们就是这样说的,but =boot, bus = boos等。。有时候听了想笑。

还有,foock you
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别的公司我不清楚,我们公司很多英国人都arrogant,事情做不好总找借口

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同意

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是挺多的,
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我同事就是,他老婆也是!最近他小舅子也来了

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好多猎头都是爱尔兰人

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在英国时觉得澳洲口音难听,在澳洲觉得英国口音很重。不得不承认,他们语言和文化有优势。

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Ponny is bloody arrogant

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some Ponny is ture arrogant with less education, but most of...

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Most our seniors / managers / directors are from UK; they are more professional, good education, work hard with logical, less bloddy brain storm, showing respect to team member, encouraging,
I am more like the soilder from great Chairman Mao troops in 1940 at the start.
I like them overall.

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Everyone dreams of the glorious sunshine, the succulent barbecues and the azure ocean. But living in Australia offered other pleasures: a sense of unimaginable space, friendly locals, proper power showers, cute wombats, and, best of all, never having to wear socks.

After two years, however, I gave up the Antipodean idyll for the dribbling showers of cramped, chilly Britain once again. And I am not alone. According to a new study, thousands of "Ping-pong Poms" emigrate to Australia only to return home again. Almost 107,000 Britons settled in Australia between 2005 and 2010 but over the same period more than 30,000 decided to permanently leave. Despite its booming economy, 86,300 people left Australia for good in 2009/10, the highest emigration ever recorded. Why? Are Ping-pong Poms classic "whinging poms", unable to appreciate the wonders of Down Under? Or is Australia an achingly dull cultural desert? Is it us? Or them?

Economics may cause people to leave but emotions tend to bring them home again, say sociologists Mary Holmes and Roger Burrows, who studied the reasons for returning given by Britons in Australia on an internet discussion forum.

After six years in Victoria, one woman bounced back to Britain despite having a smaller house, smaller car and less money citing the joys of "walking everywhere, wrapping up warm, politeness, greenery, quality TV, cosy rooms, good driving, friendliness of people, sense of humour, being part of Europe, pubs, accents, shops" and disparaging the Australia of "macho culture, the bush, terrible driving, cliques, awful TV, heat, boredom, four-wheel drives everywhere and dumbing down".

Finding Australia "boring" cropped up more than once while another disaffected migrant spoke of their Australian street being like "post nuclear holocaust" with everyone "sealed behind closed doors, blinds, roller shutters … with air conditioning units blaring". They also complained that everyone was morbidly obese. Oh, and there was only one pub to each suburb.

Their observations may ring true but they probably say more about these Eurocentric individuals than the country they are living in. Ever since the first white settlers arrived more than 200 years ago, Europeans have struggled with the alien character of the Australian landscape, light and climate.

Burrows, professor of sociology at the University of York, cites the destructive power of having a "dream" about Australia, and then having that reality dashed. "There's a sense of loss and displacement. Often people are trying to escape from something and they think if they are somewhere else it will solve itself, and it often doesn't," he says. Returnees are often "very local people" who grow up in close extended families and are deeply enmeshed in their local communities. "It's not necessarily about moving to Australia. If they moved to another town in the UK they would have that sense of displacement and loss," says Burrows.

Other studies have shown how British men in particular suffer loneliness in Australia because there was less of a culture of going to the pub after work. "There is a profound sadness out there," says Burrows.

Surprisingly, Skype and social networks that enable expats to stay in touch with friends at home may make things worse, reckons Burrows, because keeping close ties at home means that people are less likely to make new friends in their new country.

Ping-pong Poms often keep on pinging. It is the curse of the exile to return home and find everything has changed. People who make their lives in two countries often feel they belong in neither. Many of those who return to Britain never settle back into what several refer to – both positively and negatively – as "a pair of old slippers", and head back to Australia once again.

I sometimes wonder why I returned. I had my dream job in Australia; I swam in the ocean every day; I was never ill; I had a brilliant Aussie best mate and even some family out there as well. A little piece of my heart still loves Australia despite British friends deriding it as dull or as a cultural desert.

Australian TV is pretty rubbish and I found the materialism of Sydney hard to take, but then so is the gap between the rich and the poor in London, and in Australia at least the poor can snuggle up to the rich on the beach. British immigrants who find Australia a cultural desert need to meet some native intellectuals – Australian intellectuals really are supremely intellectual. And if you dismiss Australia as an ahistorical cultural desert you need to look at history and culture in a different way.

"What is most important is feeling close to family and feeling 'at home,'" write Holmes and Burrows of returning migrants. I agree. My reasons for returning were banally personal: to be with my girlfriend and family. But I also experienced a profound pull back to Britain. I missed football on a Saturday afternoon. I missed grey days in November. I missed my mum and dad. I yearned for the green meadows and soft light of home. And for all the glories of the ocean, I pined for the sea. The grey-brown North Sea.

As another ecstatic returnee put in Holmes and Burrows's study: "Seeing the North Sea for the first time, finally being able to prove to my sceptical children that blue is not the only colour a sea can be, was magical."

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