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每个月有8亿4500万人‘非死不可’ ?Facing up to 845 million users, like really? [复制链接]

发表于 2012-2-8 11:47 |显示全部楼层
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在非死不可(Facebook,脸书)的招股说明书的第一页, 它声称自己的‘每月活跃用户’高达8亿4500万人, ‘每日活跃用户’为4亿8300万人。

其实真的有那么多人去点击facebook.com吗? 难道这没有水分吗?

当你把此招股说明书翻到第44页的时候, 你才会找到‘活跃用户’的定义,可能你会被这个‘活跃’的定义雷到。
‘活跃’用户包括用电脑或者手机使用非死不可网站的人,但也包括通过第三方网站与其脸书上的好友互动的人。

也就是说, 当你在NFL.com的网站上点‘赞’(‘like’)的时候, 你就非死不可了。


所以到底有多少真正的非死不可使用者呢?

在12月份, 根据监测互联网用量的Nielsen网站所提供数据, 当月在美国一共有1亿5300万用户。非死不可则声称当月用户为1亿6100万人。 如果非死不可美国的用户量只占其全体用户的19%, 那么在招股说明书中的那8亿4500万人中, 至少有4000万是虚报的。

非死不可解释, 数据之所以不同,是因为他们使用了不同的方法来监测流量。
此公司认为, 监测世界各地的使用电脑或手机的用户流量,是件很棘手的问题。 例如, 有些手机会在用户不知情的情况下,自动与我们的服务器定期更新, 但这个活动可能会使我们的系统认为其用户为非死不可的‘活跃’用户。
但这样的虚拟用户, 不会超过总用户量的5%。

尽管如此, 非死不可在用户量这个问题上还是比它的竞争对手更透明化的。
谷歌近日只公布了Google Plus的注册用户数量, 而没有公布经常使用其服务的人数。推特也做过类似的事情。
所以说非死不可的活跃用户, 至少在一定周期里, 在某种程度上使用了非死不可的服务。

毫无疑问的是, 非死不可的用户在不断增长, 而且越来越活跃。 研究显示,注册时间越长的用户,大都会更频繁地更新其状态, 并和其好友互动。

现在非死不可的手机用户, 也就是每月活跃用户8亿4500万人中的4亿2500万人(约一半), 不会看到任何广告。
但这个情况可能持续不了多久, 虽然以现在的情况来看, 手机用户网站上的广告比电脑上的利润率要小得多。

或许有一天,有‘赞’按钮的第三方网站上,也会出现非死不可的小广告吧。



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发表于 2012-2-8 11:48 |显示全部楼层

Facing up to 845 million users, like really?

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ON THE first page of Facebook's prospectus for its sale of stock to the public, it pegs the number of its ''monthly active users'' at a whopping 845 million people. The social networking site arrives at an even more astounding number when it comes to ''daily active users'': 483 million people.

Those are some huge numbers. If it is hard to believe that so many people are clicking on facebook.com every day, that's because, well, they aren't, exactly. Those eye-popping numbers should have an asterisk next to them.

If you managed to wade through to Page 44 of Facebook's prospectus, you would discover that the company provides a definition of an ''active user'' - and it is unlikely to be what you expected.

Advertisement: Story continues below Facebook counts as ''active'' users who go to its website or its mobile site. But it also counts an entire other category of people who don't click on facebook.com as ''active users''. According to the company, a user is considered active if he or she ''took an action to share content or activity with his or her Facebook friends or connections via a third-party website that is integrated with Facebook''.

Come again?

In other words, every time you press the ''Like'' button on NFL.com, for example, you're an ''active user'' of Facebook. Perhaps you share a Twitter message on your Facebook account? That would make you an active Facebook user, too.

''Think of what this means in terms of monetising their 'daily users','' Barry Ritholtz, the chief executive and director for equity research for Fusion IQ, wrote on his blog. ''If they click a 'Like' button but do not go to Facebook that day, they cannot be marketed to, they do not see any advertising, they cannot be sold any goods or services. All they did was take advantage of FB's extensive infrastructure to tell their FB friends that they liked something online.''

Facebook appears to be using the term ''active'' as a euphemism for ''engaged'' rather than how many users are going to its site.

So how many users are active, using a more traditional definition?

In December, Nielsen, which tracks usage on the internet, counted 153 million unique users on the Facebook website for the month in the United States, although Facebook says in its filing that it has 161 million monthly active users. If Facebook's US traffic accounts for only about 19 per cent of its business, that means the numbers are off by at least 40 million users from the 845 million Facebook defines as ''active.''

Facebook, which declined to comment for this column because it is in a so-called quiet period before its initial offering, says in its prospectus that its numbers ''will differ from estimates published by third parties due to differences in methodology''.

The company acknowledged that ''there are inherent challenges in measuring usage across large online and mobile populations around the world'' because, for example, ''applications on certain mobile devices may automatically contact our servers for regular updates with no user action involved, and this activity may cause our system to count the user associated with such a device as an active user of Facebook''. Still, the company says this kind of fictitious usage accounts for less than 5 per cent of its totals.

Facebook's counting is, oddly enough, more transparent than that of some of its rivals. Google was recently criticised for disclosing only the number of registered users on its Google Plus service, not how many people actually used the service regularly. Twitter has similarly been criticised. At least Facebook is trying to count only those who are somehow engaged with the service in a meaningful way.

There is no question that Facebook users are an engaged bunch and growing. A Pew Study recently rebutted any concerns about ''Facebook fatigue'': ''We found no evidence among our sample that length of time using Facebook is associated with a decline in Facebook activity. On the contrary, the more time that has passed since a user started using Facebook, the more frequently he/she makes status updates, uses the 'like' button, comments on friends' content and tags friends in photos.''

The big question is how Facebook can put all of its ''active'', er, engaged users in front of advertising.

At the moment, none of its mobile users - which the company counts as 425 million of the 845 million monthly active users - see any advertisements. That is likely to change; but the margins on mobile advertising, at least for now, are much lower than on a computer screen.

Will Facebook one day be able to force third-party websites that have integrated its ''Like'' button into their pages to also accept a small ad next to it? Perhaps.

NEW YORK TIMES



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/f ... .html#ixzz1lkN4MPUA

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发表于 2012-2-8 11:51 |显示全部楼层
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很多时候是被非死不可的
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发表于 2012-2-8 11:53 |显示全部楼层
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‘非死不可’这个翻译,发音很准.
但是别人都叫什么,脸谱

发表于 2012-2-8 11:54 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 hbo147258 于 2012-2-8 11:53 发表
‘非死不可’这个翻译,发音很准.
但是别人都叫什么,脸谱


我唯一看过的一本书, 叫脸书

发表于 2012-2-8 11:55 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 无翼而飞 于 2012-2-8 11:51 发表
很多时候是被非死不可的


谢谢加分:si21
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发表于 2012-2-8 12:15 |显示全部楼层
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我也是被facebook的。同事玩游戏让我帮忙,所以经常去点点,其他的我都不做。不过就这样也会被算到活跃用户里的。

发表于 2012-2-8 12:16 |显示全部楼层
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我out了。還沒S過

发表于 2012-2-8 12:21 |显示全部楼层
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这个译音很恶

发表于 2012-2-8 12:23 |显示全部楼层
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这标题取得让人无语

发表于 2012-2-8 12:23 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 monya 于 2012-2-8 12:15 发表
我也是被facebook的。同事玩游戏让我帮忙,所以经常去点点,其他的我都不做。不过就这样也会被算到活跃用户里的。



这个当然是啊, 不但上fb了, 而且还支持了游戏开发商

文中知道第三方网站的‘赞’应该是这样的吧:

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发表于 2012-2-8 13:58 |显示全部楼层
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我也被非死不可了。

发表于 2012-2-8 14:10 |显示全部楼层
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如果没有非死不可,朋友间发生什么事都不知道。。。

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