想问一下city的一室，apartment / studio

LOOKINGFORHOUSE

不知道投资这个如何？现在的价格是多少一套？？

MelCity

17,18万到30多万都有

兔兔狗

楼上肯定不是说悉尼吧。。

idontknow

学生公寓这个价钱到时可以买到

password

原帖由 MelCity 于 2011-3-28 15:16 发表
17,18万到30多万都有

应该是 30 多万到 60 多万的都有，正正经经的一室，:si89

LOOKINGFORHOUSE

说的是墨尔本。我看了网上说有很多15至20万左右的，一室的小房子（apartment / studio）.

不知道投资这个好不好？是不是这种房子现在的价格比以前便宜了？而且永远也不会涨太多？

有这方面经验的牛人吗？

newtoall

"说的是墨尔本。我看了网上说有很多15至20万左右的，一室的小房子（apartment / studio）.
不知道投资这个好不好？是不是这种房子现在的价格比以前便宜了？而且永远也不会涨太多？
有这方面经验的牛人吗？"

Not 牛人.

Not true -- > 这种房子现在的价格比以前便宜了

True --> 不会涨太多

投资这个好不好 --> depends

    --- From less input, better cash flow, less loss and less vacancy point of view ---> 好
    --- From % of mortgage you can get from bank, capital gain point of view --> 不好

However, as it says "no pains no gains" -->  less pains less gains

If you want to purchase, please DO
   --  NOT buy student apartments
   -- NOT buy apartments managed by Unilodge
   -- NOT buy apartments manged by Hotel groups
   -- NOT buy apartments mixed with service apartments.

Just suggestions

[ 本帖最后由 newtoall 于 2011-3-29 16:47 编辑 ]

LOOKINGFORHOUSE

very useful, tks so much

MelCity

mixed with serviced apartment不一定不好，好像：
1: 250 Elizabeth St
2: 222 Russell St.

自住是很好的选择。

newtoall

原帖由 MelCity 于 2011-3-29 15:18 发表
mixed with serviced apartment不一定不好，好像：
.自住是很好的选择。

Firstly, MelCity --> You are looked like an agent, probably you are.  Agent is fine as long as the information is balanced

Secondly,
  ( 自住是很好的选择 ) ??? ---> NO NO !!
the reasons do not mixed with serviced apartment -- are that
   1. you have less diverse population and less strange faces every day.   
   2. Also, avoid those high management fee incurred as one owner (service apartment owner) has too much power over the Owner Corporation -- thus others the hardly 自住owner can control the OC issues.

Not sure why you think mixed with serviced apartment is ok ?  Could you provide your justifications?

[ 本帖最后由 newtoall 于 2011-3-29 16:46 编辑 ]

MelCity

如果你有买过或卖过250 elizabeth street, somerset和222 russell Street, Mantra的自住房，再
来和我讨论这个问题。
去查一下那里2房自住的房价，和市场上有多少房源放出来的

LOOKINGFORHOUSE

MelCity，你的结论是什么呢？原因何在？

newtoall

原帖由 MelCity 于 2011-3-30 12:34 发表
如果你有买过或卖过自住房，再来和我讨论这个问题。去查一下那里2房自住的房价，和市场上有多少房源放出来的

I think this is a typical *agent* style of answering things or try to promote something and hard to find justifications.   And then talk about demand and supply which is non senses.

gorilla

非耗子不买:si50

新澳之旅

原帖由 newtoall 于 2011-3-29 13:02 发表
"说的是墨尔本。我看了网上说有很多15至20万左右的，一室的小房子（apartment / studio）.
不知道投资这个好不好？是不是这种房子现在的价格比以前便宜了？而且永远也不会涨太多？
有这方面经验的牛人吗？"

Not 牛人.

Not true  ...

我觉得你是大牛

我花了学费才学的，就是你说的那些。

2009annie

为什么说这些公寓不好
比如250k的货款80%200k
利息大概14k per year
Rent $350*52=$17k
还有得赚
其它费用都由hotel出是吧

chiny

1. management fee in form of body corp

2. cost of maintainence&new furniture & fixture~~

3. drepeciation&interest

its price that low got its reasons~~~high rent high return just kninda window dressing

MelCity

First of all, I do NOT have anything for sale in those 2 blocks as they are very popular,  so I am not promoting anything here.  I was telling the fact that I sold those own occupied apartments before.
I guess I know those buildings more than you do.

Secondly, compare with those buildings like QV, verve, milano (mixed with serviced apartment as well), which most people recommend as more own occupied. The body corp fee in someset and mantra is quite reasonable according to the size and conditions. Facilities are always well looked after and maintained.

Thirdly, for secure issue. Those residential apartments in serviced apartment have private lifts or entrance. And the reception is way better than most residential 'building manager'.

Last but not lease, the building quality is much better than those new buildings like QV and Verve etc.

By the way, a lot landlords there are those people who run business more than 20 years in Melbourne. I think they have their own options and judgment, and anyone can easily fool or '忽悠‘them.

我是只卖city apartment 的中介， 不过我不会在这里开贴做广告，只是看到有人问起city或者apartment才会发表一下建议。对于我所不熟悉的地区，我不会装’砖家‘。房价的定位和需求是由市场来决定的，不是我辈一两句话可以左右的。

如果你觉得我说的不对只是因为我是中介，那么请忽略我的回复，讨论的范围请局限于本贴，不要扯到我是一个中介还是餐馆老板或者是163。

happydog

请问，为什么student apartments不好?是不是只能租给学生，不能租给其他人？

chiny

原帖由 newtoall 于 2011-3-29 12:02 发表
"说的是墨尔本。我看了网上说有很多15至20万左右的，一室的小房子（apartment / studio）.
不知道投资这个好不好？是不是这种房子现在的价格比以前便宜了？而且永远也不会涨太多？
有这方面经验的牛人吗？"

Not 牛人.

Not true  ...

have to say, i couldnt agree anymore~~~wat u tried to say is real but not a shit~~~good on ya~~

chiny

原帖由 MelCity 于 2011-3-31 10:12 发表
First of all, I do NOT have anything for sale in those 2 blocks as they are very popular,  so I am not promoting anything here.  I was telling the fact that I sold those own occupied apartments before ...

1st one, those 2 r not da brand new one~~~nope on da market bcoz most of them just been consolidated by da serviced apt groups who paying good rent~~yes, yes, as a investment point of view dats fair enough, pretty good return as long term dividents paid~~no owners gonna put it on da market unless he or she got any financail problem, but~~~for self living just kinda crap~~its ture~~no doubts~~ probably the one u sold b4 already been a investment property which suppose to be a self living purpose~~~~

2nd one, QV, verve, milano, i cant say serviced apt got those big cut~~dats why their body corp got that high, so da rent is higher, position position position, someset and mantra just mainly serviced apt, dont do any misleading~~~as time flees, they cant be always well looked after and maintained bcoz every one getting old, off course so far so good as a new condition, but just status quo

3rd one, i dont think security and privacy would be a issue in those apts which not dead old, they have to do that, they have to make some $$, in lobbying and bargaining power, serviced apt gr is far more powerful compared to individual owners~~

last one, quality just cant be instead of position~~~one got it depreciated, one just perpetual~~~&look@their age, da latest one, da worst quality, datz da way developer making $$

By the way, a lot of landlords just investors~~~but not living there~~off course they got well judgment&perception~~~

u just 中介, u doing ya job well, i understand, but pls dont do any misleading shit~~~u can be very dodgy, fine~~这也不算是"忽悠", 可是希望你客观中肯一点~~~

MelCity

All I said is :
mixed with serviced apartment不一定不好，好像：
1: 250 Elizabeth St
2: 222 Russell St.

自住是很好的选择。

If you think I was misleading, that is fine. Report me in CAV.

Another fact I want to tell you is that a lot owners of  restaurants in Chinatown are living or used to live in 222 russell or 181 exhibition for very long time because of the location.

The topic we are discussing here is about  the residential apartments in serviced apartment building, not serviced apartments. There are more than 50 serviced apartment buildings in CBD, most of them are not even allowed for own occupiers to move in. The 2 examples I gave is good choice for own occupiers as my own opinion.

I will not suggest you to buy those residential apartments, but at least get through those apartments once and get to know info in sec 32 before you make any comments.

Even serviced apartments are different, Stockland Group has very sound reputation in Aussie community.