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[其他讨论] 每年增长10%,7,8年翻一番,是真的假的?请教~ [复制链接]

发表于 2010-8-25 12:33 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 意大利10号 于 2010-8-24 11:38 发表
现在很多国内的中介说,澳洲的房子有每年最少10%的增长,7—8年翻一番,真的假的?在悉尼或者墨尔本靠近市中心的物业,能达到这样的效果吗?

真是真的,但同时你房子楼下 coles 的大米也涨了 50%,如果大米可以保存 7-8 年,其实也是个不错的投资
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发表于 2010-8-25 12:35 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 password 于 2010-8-25 11:33 发表

真是真的,但同时你房子楼下 coles 的大米也涨了 50%,如果大米可以保存 7-8 年,其实也是个不错的投资


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房比大米好。大米不能出租

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发表于 2010-8-25 12:41 |显示全部楼层
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不能直接trade 大米,但是可以做粮价期货之类的啊!

确实很多人做食品方面的期货。据说水果之中橙子最好做。

发表于 2010-8-25 12:51 |显示全部楼层
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期货是风险最高的投资品种之一,比房子高多了

发表于 2010-8-25 12:59 |显示全部楼层
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说是一回事 实际上是另一回事

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原帖由 flyspirit 于 2010-8-25 10:09 发表
国内大城市这10年翻了三番,何必到澳洲来买?这里涨的太慢了

我朋友当时是这么说的,但是他们说什么澳洲的房子稳定啊,抗跌啊,风险低啊什么的
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发表于 2010-9-16 19:47 |显示全部楼层
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翻了3倍?跳楼的人数估计也翻了三倍吧?
国内的市场叫投机市场,国外这种稳定的市场,才叫投资市场。
另外10年翻番,是指整体,有些地区可能10年连10%都没有,而有些地区可能都长了好几倍。这个东西要看location的。
哪里能一概而论.
用涨的最少的地段去反驳整体增长率,有意义么?

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哪些区性价比高一点啊?

发表于 2010-9-16 20:31 |显示全部楼层
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可以去看看过去几年各个suburb的房价增长比率统计。
但是未来的增长比率就要靠预测了。
2009年的时候,墨尔本增长最好的区是williamstown

THE best performing suburb for units and apartments in Melbourne this year, was Williamstown, recording a 38 per cent increase to a median of $490,000.
其次是footscray.

http://www.realestatesource.com. ... owntown-so-far.html

发表于 2010-9-16 20:41 |显示全部楼层

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Melbourne Best suburbs continues to outperform- South Yarra Top the list
Posted on 29 June 2010
The Age
MARC PALLISCO
June 28, 2010 – 4:06PM

The Valuer-General median house price figures offer the most accurate data on the market, writes Marc Pallisco.

For true real estate aficionados, the official figures released this month by the Valuer-General into median house prices couldn’t have come sooner.

The government report, covering the most tumultuous economic period since the 2001 terrorist attacks, relies on the State Revenue Office for information and captures almost every house, unit and land sale recorded for the 15 months to December 2009.

By comparison, statistics produced by industry and private groups such as the Fairfax-owned Australian Property Monitors and the Real Estate Institute of Victoria, rely predominantly on real estate agents for information and are not as comprehensive.

Unreported sales and unreported prices—not always included in the industry-produced data—are captured by the Victorian government via Notice of Acquisition statements, which are required by law to be completed by a purchaser.

With a wider pool of sales to analyse, the Valuer-General can include almost every suburb on best-performing ‘‘league tables’’.

Many privately controlled research groups cannot detail strongly performing suburbs if too few sales were registered in the period to make a median figure statistically reliable.

The unfortunate thing about the Valuer-General’s reports—other than that you’ll be slugged a fee to get one—is that they are released some five months after rivals have captured the headlines.

The REIV typically captures between 70 and 80 per cent of sales, and is among the first to release its research, free of charge, about three weeks after the end of a quarter.

Despite the lag, the comprehensiveness and accuracy of the government figures deserve another headline.

Saturday Domain takes a look at the best-performing suburbs, in regard to median house price for the year ended December 2009, citing the Valuer-General’s official statistics.

South Yarra

Median increase (December ’08 quarter-December ’09): 66 per cent

Median house value at December ’09: $1,353,000

Ritziest pocket: Royal Botanic Gardens precinct between St Kilda Road and South Yarra train station

How it compared to the neighbours in that time:

Richmond up 17.6 per cent to $750,000

Toorak up 13 per cent to $3.05 million

Prahran up 37.3 per cent to $948,000

South Melbourne up 28.3 per cent to $1.026 million

It’s hard not to notice the building boom in South Yarra. Shops, offices and hotels are replacing former industrial sites, catapulting the already-fashionable precinct into what buyers’ advocate Michael Ramsay of Michael Ramsay Property calls ‘‘Melbourne’s best suburb’’.

Buyers here are prepared to pay Toorak or Brighton prices for houses that are often on small blocks.

Earlier this year, a Kensington Road house on 4366 square metres sold for $12 million to $13 million, reportedly setting a suburb record.

It’s not unusual, however, for two-storey, balconied terraces to sell for more than $3 million now— unheard of 10 years ago.

Lower Plenty

Median increase (December ’08 quarter-December ’09): 51.9 per cent

Median house value at December ’09: $875,000

Ritziest pocket: Streets off Old Eltham Road near the Heidelberg Golf Club, the north side of Rosehill Road,

Lakeside Estate.

How it compared to the neighbours in that time:

Montmorency up 26.3 per cent to $512,000

Eltham up 3.8 per cent to $550,000

Templestowe up 8.1 per cent to $847,000

Viewbank up 13.5 per cent to $555,000

It doesn’t get more ‘‘city meets country’’ than some parts of Lower Plenty.

The suburb is full of grand houses on huge lots, many with an outlook over parks and rivers. Yet a trip to town takes just 15 minutes on the Eastern Freeway.

The exclusive enclave, a hideout for many of the north-eastern suburb’s richest and highest-profile identities, was one of the strongest performing regions in median value growth last year.

The strength of the market is set to be tested next month when a palatial 930-square-metre mansion at 7 Beckett Court will be sold after an expressions-of-interest campaign.

It is expected to fetch up to $4 million, which would set a record for the area, according to selling agent Rocco Montanaro of Morrison Kleeman.

Mr Montanaro says Lower Plenty remains popular because of its big blocks, without breaking the bank.

‘‘When you compare what $2 million to $3 million buys in Ivanhoe, or Kew, the value of homes in Lower Plenty and the lifestyle that home offers comes to the fore,’’ he says.

Carnegie

Median increase (December ’08 quarter-December ’09): 50.9 per cent

Median house value at December ’09: $870,000

Ritziest pocket: Holywood Grove, McPherson Avenue, Mile End Road.

How it compared to the neighbours in that time:

Malvern East up 2.9 per cent to $993,000

Bentleigh East up 21.5 per cent to $693,000

Ormond up 17.3 per cent to $880,000

Caulfield South up 28.8 per cent to $857,000

Carnegie is comfortably on track to becoming one of Melbourne’s many ‘‘million dollar suburbs’’.

Filled predominantly with understated houses, Carnegie shares its postcode with Murrumbeena and Glen Huntly, which also reported above-average growth for the year to December 2009.

Ray White Carnegie director Matt Hurlston says the suburb is popular with young families who see the value of Carnegie compared with some of its more expensive neighbours, including Malvern East and Brighton East.

Carnegie prices are preserved by the presence of universities in Melbourne’s south-eastern suburbs, including Swinburne and Monash, as well as proximity to the CBD, Mr Hurlston says.

Heidelberg

Median increase (December ’08 quarter-December ’09): 45.3 per cent

Median house value at December ’09: $872,000

Ritziest pocket: Eaglemont

How it compared to the neighbours in that time:

Macleod up 11.7 per cent to $546,000

Rosanna up 16.1 per cent to $666,000

Bulleen up 3.8 per cent to $663,000

Ivanhoe up 15 per cent to $920,000

Heidelberg Heights up 29.7 per cent to $516,000

Heidelberg shares a Melway page with Kew, so it’s no surprise values have surged recently, reflecting that proximity. It has big blocks, good transport, hospitals and access to top schools in nearby suburbs.

South of Bell Street,Heidelberg has some of the northern suburb’s best real estate, in the leafy, hilly pocket of Eaglemont.

Earlier this month, a record for the precinct was set when an investor paid a speculated $5.5 million for a five bedroom house in The Righi.

North of Bell Street prices fall dramatically. Heidelberg, like Heidelberg West and Heidelberg Heights, has a high component of public housing, and attached duplexes that are not straightforward to demolish and rebuild.

Black rock

Median increase (December ’08 quarter-December ’09): 43.1 per cent

Median house value at December ’09: $1,219,000

Ritziest pocket: Opposite the beach, streets off Bent Parade

How it compared to the neighbours in that time:

Sandringham up 22.6 per cent to $1,113,000

Cheltenham up 9.3 per cent to $648,000

Beaumaris up 14.4 per cent to $1.03 million

Few Melbourne addresses offer the combination of factors that makes Black Rock popular.

The quiet beach hamlet, between Sandringham and the Ricketts Point Marine Sanctuary, was the best performing bayside suburb last year in median house value growth.

Black Rock, Sandringham and Beaumaris all became ‘‘million dollar precincts’’ last year. Buyers advocate Karin Mackay of Australian Property Buyers describes Black Rock as the quiet achiever throughout the recent economic slowdown.

‘‘It is close to a train station, is close to the beach, offers a great lifestyle, and land sizes are excellent,’’ she said.

‘‘Black Rock, in some instances, is cheaper than Brighton East and Hampton East, and attracts first and second home buyers who can’t afford Brighton, Sandringham and Hampton.’’

Bad performers

It wasn’t all beer and skittles last year. Median values in some suburbs went backwards, but this could say more about flaws with the median methodology than demand.

Diamond Creek down 6.4 per cent to $440,000

Fairfield down 7.9 to $700,000

Narre Warren North down 19.6 to $468,000

Safety Beach down 11.4 per cent to $395,000

Sandhurst down 12.8 per cent to $435,000

Upper Ferntree Gully down 13.6 per cent to $331,000

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我贊成前面人說的, 不能全投房子 也不要全買shares.

每年10%, 可能要include鄉下把??? $100,000, 多$10,000就10%了阿.
想要真正靠房子賺錢, 難把. unless你錢夠多, 都可以買好的location, 自己當developer玩.
要不然大家薪水就是這樣.. 你說每個apt都$700k $800k誰買的起.
而政府也不可能放縱下去... 漲太多..那移民就少進來, interest rate就給他上升.
這房價是民生問題..
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原帖由 lol 于 2010-8-24 11:43 发表
上个10年达到了,但是谁也不知道,历史会不会被复制

过去50年都达到了,人得成功经验不一定被复制

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原帖由 flyspirit 于 2010-8-25 10:09 发表
国内大城市这10年翻了三番,何必到澳洲来买?这里涨的太慢了


象上海这样的城市,10年远不止翻三番,据我所知,增值600%以上的是普遍现象,十倍以上并不少见。我在2000年买了套位置较为偏远的,2005年卖了,涨了8倍,如果放到现在已经12倍以上了

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中国这房价,现在买还能赚吗?

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原帖由 Bella 于 2010-9-17 11:17 发表
中国这房价,现在买还能赚吗?

能啊,中国今后达到一人一套房的时候才没得赚
黄色的脸孔有红色的污泥
黑色的眼珠有白色的恐惧

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中国贫富差距这么大,怎么可能一人一套房子?
中国房地产最有效也最让人恶心的一个技巧就是囤房。。。。。。。
搞的市场一塌糊涂.....
那些房地产赚到翻的有钱人又怎么会在意那些工薪阶层的穷人买不起房子的痛苦?

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历史从来不会简单地重复!

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原帖由 qinyi 于 2010-9-17 15:35 发表
历史从来不会简单地重复!

也不会不重复

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