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发表于 2020-6-6 14:21 |显示全部楼层
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感谢隔壁同学的发帖,我今天也收到了回复。总而言之,只要签证没过期,不用担心每次最多停留三个月还是一年的问题,我父母是600签证,还有好几年过期,18个月中只能 停留12个月,按照这个回复,是不需要另外体检和申请任何签证,即使超过停留时间,也不会对将来的签证申请有任何影响。父母可以安心住下,到疫情稳定后再考虑回国的安排。分享这个好消息给大家,祝长周末愉快!

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No Further Stay Waiver Team
Department of Home Affairs


Your waiver request has been received by the No Further Stay Waiver Team.

Please do not follow up on your request unless your visa is due to expire in less than 2 days. We will not respond to emails asking for an update on your request.

If you do not have a no further stay condition (includes 8503, 8534 and 8535) on your visa you do not need to apply for a waiver. We will not respond to these emails.


Important information

We are prioritising waiver requests by the visa expiry date. We will consider your request before your visa is due to expire or cease, this may take longer depending on the period of time before your visa expires or ceases.



Please do not request a waiver unless you have less than 4 weeks validity on your current visa – you can check your grant letter or VEVO for this information.

If your visa has already expired and we have not made a decision on your waiver request visit our website for information on how to resolve your Immigration status: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/visa-about-to-expire

Condition 8558 (must not stay in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period)

If you hold a visa with condition 8558 you should depart Australia before the date on which you will have stayed in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period.

If you are unable to depart Australia before this time for reasons beyond your control however, we do not expect you to apply for a further visa unless you are unable to depart before your visa expiry date.

Your ‘No Further Stay’ waiver request will therefore be prioritised according to the visa expiry date, and not the date on which you will have stayed in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period.

Condition 8558 is not able to be waived, however a breach of this condition under these circumstances will not result in visa cancellation or have any negative consequences for a future visa application.

Condition 8531 (must not remain in Australia beyond the period of stay permitted by the visa)

If you hold a visa with condition 8531 and have not been able to depart Australia as planned, for reasons beyond your control, you should apply for a further visa before your current visa expires.

Your 'No Further Stay' waiver request will be prioritised according to the visa expiry date.

Condition 8531 is not able to be waived, however if your ‘No Further Stay’ waiver request is approved, a breach of this condition under these circumstances will not have any negative consequences for a future visa application or sponsorship, and you will be able to apply for refund of any security bond (if provided) after the visa holder has departed Australia.

Withdrawing your request

You can withdraw your request at any stage during this processing. If you or any dependant applicant wishes to withdraw the request, this must be provided to the department by emailing NoFurtherStayWaiverRequest@homeaffairs.gov.au. This advice can include any number of applicants but must be signed be each person aged 18 years and over.



If the condition is waived

The waiver of the No Further Stay condition is not an extension to any current visa that you hold. The waiver of the No Further Stay condition allows you to apply for another visa subclass without having to leave Australia. If you want to stay longer in Australia, you must apply for a new visa. Your circumstances will determine your visa options and what you must do to remain lawful in Australia. There may be restrictions on applying for further visas while you are in Australia. You may consider applying to remain in Australia as a visitor unless you are eligible to work, study or join family in Australia.

Your visa will expire at the end of your current stay period and NOT the expiry date for multiple travel to Australia. To confirm the date your visa will expire if you remain in Australia please check VEVO for this information

If the condition is not waived

If the No Further Stay condition is not waived, you will not be able to apply for most visas while you are in Australia. If possible to do so, arrangements should be made to depart Australia.



If you are unable to depart Australia before your current visa expiry date you may be subject to serious consequences including possible detention and removal from Australia. You should contact us for advice and assistance as soon as possible. More information about expired visas is available on our website at www.homeaffairs.gov.au/expiredvisas

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发表于 2020-6-6 19:52 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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If you are unable to depart Australia before this time for reasons beyond your control 买不到机票应该算是一个原因,但是需要证明呢?

发表于 2020-6-6 21:48 |显示全部楼层
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你可能先确定下再分享,以免造成误导,根据官网和这个邮件回复,连续呆了12个月就得申请新的签证,邮件也说了,If you are unable to depart Australia before this time for reasons beyond your control however, we do not expect you to apply for a further visa unless you are unable to depart before your visa expiry date. 就是你实在离开不了,他们才建议你申请新的签证,这个visa expiry date 是VEVO里的日期。他们也说了 you can check your grant letter or VEVO for this information. 可以确认下,我倒希望你是对的。

发表于 2020-6-6 21:56 |显示全部楼层
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这个是默认需要遵守8558的 18/12的规定,

假如由于客观原因无法离开澳洲,假如签证还有效,可以不用申请新的签证,即假如已经通航并且比较容易买到机票,就不能当成滞留的原因

这个签证有效期不是签证那个3年截至日期,这种类别的600签证是最近一次入境的有效期是自入境日起 12个月,12个月之后,签证就会自动失效,不管是否已经到了签证的3年、或者5年的截止日期

发表于 2020-6-6 22:07 |显示全部楼层
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voicar 发表于 2020-6-6 21:56
这个是默认需要遵守8558的 18/12的规定,

假如由于客观原因无法离开澳洲,假如签证还有效,可以不用申请新 ...

同意

发表于 2020-6-8 05:10 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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这是一道阅读理解题 我和楼主的理解是一样的 应该不用申请新的visa... 不放心可以再邮件确认下
Condition 8558 is not able to be waived, however a breach of this condition under these circumstances will not result in visa cancellation or have any negative consequences for a future visa application.
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发表于 2020-6-8 05:28 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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voicar 发表于 2020-6-6 21:56
这个是默认需要遵守8558的 18/12的规定,

假如由于客观原因无法离开澳洲,假如签证还有效,可以不用申请新 ...

机票太贵不好买 只是一个原因而已
还有其他客观条件阻碍回国 比如旅途中被其他国家旅客感染的风险 还要被强制隔离14天或者28天 这对有些老人的身体和身心是个挑战
如果理由成立可以waive8503 那么违反8558也就算特殊的circumstance 而文中明确说明这种情况不会有不好的影响 也没必要申请新的签证
这是我的理解 需要和immi确认下

发表于 2020-6-8 12:05 |显示全部楼层
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有机六兽 发表于 2020-6-8 05:28
机票太贵不好买 只是一个原因而已
还有其他客观条件阻碍回国 比如旅途中被其他国家旅客感染的风险 还要 ...

这个想法导致的结果会是非常严重

呆在澳洲必须持有有效的签证,并不是有特殊原因就可以不需要签证,否则后果很严重

发表于 2020-6-8 12:23 |显示全部楼层
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有机六兽 发表于 2020-6-8 05:28
机票太贵不好买 只是一个原因而已
还有其他客观条件阻碍回国 比如旅途中被其他国家旅客感染的风险 还要 ...

我也是这样理解,如果有回信再来更新

发表于 2020-6-8 13:46 |显示全部楼层
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fatinahu 发表于 2020-6-8 12:23
我也是这样理解,如果有回信再来更新

12/18特殊情况可以不理会没错,但是要基于你本身签证没有过期的情况下,如果人现在on shore,你可以去查一下vevo,visa expiry date是你连续居住1年以后的日期。过了这个日期,签证就过期了。3年,5年只是你可以往返澳中的区间。现在可以放宽政策的就是18个月累计住满12个月的,目前状况移民局可以暂时不与理会。3年,5年的签证本身也是写着max 1year for each arrival, multi travel。这个并不是签证下面的condition,这个是签证本身就是这样的,是绝不可能改变的。所以连续住满12个月的,必须要申请新的600,如果还想继续住的话。

发表于 2020-6-8 16:38 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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lenaliang 发表于 2020-6-8 13:46
12/18特殊情况可以不理会没错,但是要基于你本身签证没有过期的情况下,如果人现在on shore,你可以去查 ...

如果能waive 8503 是不是也可以申请别的签证 比如 年迈父母签证?可以澳洲境内申请 直接获得过桥签证吗?
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有机六兽 发表于 2020-6-8 16:38
如果能waive 8503 是不是也可以申请别的签证 比如 年迈父母签证?可以澳洲境内申请 直接获得过桥签证吗? ...

已经有在排队143吗,如果有那不行,需要撤销再转,如果什么移民签证都没申请,那应该可以的。但是864要一直境内等待了哦,对于一直长期居住的老人可能有点麻烦。出境需要申请过桥b,而且也不好一直住在国内。

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支持 大家看看这个帖子吧 我再给父母预约体检 真是头大了 哎

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我觉得楼主混淆了Visa expiry date和Must not arrive after。你如果用VEVO查看签证状态,查询结果里的Visa expiry date应该是从入境的日期向后推12个月。如果超过了这一天签证就算过期,而不是以Must not arrive after的日期决定签证是否有效。

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fatinahu 发表于 2020-6-8 12:23
我也是这样理解,如果有回信再来更新

楼主,请问移民局有回信吗?最近也收到同样的EMAIL。信中关于visa expiry date的解释与VEVO不一致。

VEVO上的日期是入境后的12个月。信中却明确否定了这个日期。。。

Condition 8558 (must not stay in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period)

If you hold a visa with condition 8558 you should depart Australia before the date on which you will have stayed in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period.

If you are unable to depart Australia before this time for reasons beyond your control however, we do not expect you to apply for a further visa unless you are unable to depart before your visa expiry date.

Your ‘No Further Stay’ waiver request will therefore be prioritised according to the visa expiry date, and not the date on which you will have stayed in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period.

Condition 8558 is not able to be waived, however a breach of this condition under these circumstances will not result in visa cancellation or have any negative consequences for a future visa application.

发表于 2020-6-25 23:10 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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everise 发表于 2020-6-25 18:31
楼主,请问移民局有回信吗?最近也收到同样的EMAIL。信中关于visa expiry date的解释与VEVO不一致。

VEV ...

没有任何回复,他们如果按照签证过期日来算,那还早了去了
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我的理解是这样:移民局回复中下面两段话,第一段是说正常情况下任何18个月内不能呆超过12个月,第二段是说你在12/18呆满的时候如果无法离开澳洲,你可以不用申请新的签证,除非你在你的 ‘visa expiry date’ 到的时候还是无法离开澳洲,那你就需要申请新的签证了。

If you hold a visa with condition 8558 you should depart Australia before the date on which you will have stayed in Australia for more than 12 months in any 18 month period.

If you are unable to depart Australia before this time for reasons beyond your control however, we do not expect you to apply for a further visa unless you are unable to depart before your visa expiry date.

关于这个 ‘visa expiry date’ 移民局也在下面这段话中明确说明了,你的visa会在本次停留呆满时失效,而不是在你三年或五年多次往返的那个有效期到时失效。最准确的expiry date就是去vevo里面查看到的失效日期, 也就是最近一次入境算起的12个月后。

Your visa will expire at the end of your current stay period and NOT the expiry date for multiple travel to Australia. To confirm the date your visa will expire if you remain in Australia please check VEVO for this information

总结下来就是在你 ‘visa expiry date’ 到之前还是需要申请新签证,如果你已经在澳洲连续居住12个月你的签证一样会失效,一样需要申请新签证。唯一与之前不同的就是如果你是累计居住满12个月的,那移民局现在只从你最近一次入境开始算连续呆满12个月签证才失效,这个应该会在vevo里面显示出来的,到时还不能走再申请新签证。这些是我的理解。

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发表于 2020-6-30 21:52 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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jekyxmj 发表于 2020-6-25 23:40
我的理解是这样:移民局回复中下面两段话,第一段是说正常情况下任何18个月内不能呆超过12个月,第二段是说 ...

你的理解是对的,expire day是不可逾越的,就是说单次居住不超过12个月是不可以逾越的。但是累计18个月内住满12个月是可以豁免的。

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