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你会推荐你的孩子看这本书吗? [复制链接]

发表于 2015-4-12 23:00 |显示全部楼层
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我最近在看一本书 "Conversations with God,", written by Neale D. Walsch。相信许多人都看过。去翻翻amazon的评价就知道,褒贬不一,很有争议性的一本书。

作者还出了一本 "Conversations with God for Teens,“,专门写给年轻人看的。

在网上google 了一下,真是不看不知道,一看吓一跳。以下摘自某教会网站:

"Conversations with God," and "Conversations with God for Teens," written by Neale D. Walsch

Beware of these books!  Oprah is pushing them. It is being distributed through the SCHOLASTIC Book Club in schools, but it is not a Christian book. It is aimed at young people and is not Biblical at all. For example:

When a girl asks the question, "Why am I a lesbian?"  “God” answers is that she was 'born that way,” and then tells her to go out and "celebrate" her differences.
Another girls poses the question, "I am living with my boyfriend. My parents say that I should marry him because I am living in sin. Should I marry him?"  “God” replies, "Who are you sinning against?  Not me, because you have done nothing wrong."
Another question asks about God's forgiveness of sin. The false god replies, "I do not forgive anyone because there is nothing to forgive.  There is no such thing as right or wrong and that is what I have been trying to tell everyone, do not judge people.  People have chosen to judge one another and this is wrong, because the rule is "'judge not lest ye be judged."

If you have children or grandchildren, work with children at church, or you have neighborhood children whose parents you know, please take note of this information and pass it along to others.  Schools are distributing this book to children through the Scholastic Book Club.

Why not see:
同性恋对吗?Is Gay OK?
       
恋爱 Dating
       
我为什么信上帝存在 [我们来自] Why I believe in God
Get Adobe PDF Reader 为什么《圣经》值得信任?Why We can Trust the Bible

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发表于 2015-4-13 09:42 |显示全部楼层
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书没有看过.但从举的例子来看,是违背圣经教导的.也与我对孩子的教育背道而驰,所以肯定不会推荐这本书了,而且还要小心.孩子的世界观和人生观正处于形成期,对其所接触的书和人,要注意些好,不过这方面的资料充斥着市场,不妨直接和孩子讨论.
对政治只有遥远的兴趣。穿越谎言,拨开迷雾,见证历史
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看过,印象不深。

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发表于 2015-4-13 10:29 |显示全部楼层
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icelemontea 发表于 2015-4-13 09:42
书没有看过.但从举的例子来看,是违背圣经教导的.也与我对孩子的教育背道而驰,所以肯定不会推荐这本书了,而 ...

那最好的办法是不是大人先看一遍,然后再根据你家的信仰来决定。图书馆有借。

这本书staying on the New York Times Best-Sellers List for 137 weeks。对它的正面评价也很多的。

发表于 2015-4-13 11:28 |显示全部楼层
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不了解这书,自己也没兴趣读,而且我的孩子当前也肯定不爱读这样的书。但是等孩子大点(15岁以后),已经形成自己的价值观后,不妨可以看看这种书,了解不同人的观点。

话说孩子一直上的教会学校,一路都是正规的天主教教育,但是对于孩子经常问的一些不好回答的问题,我都按照我的理解给孩子解释,可能与教会宣传的不一样,但是我都是尽可能用两边都能解释得通的回答。例如孩子问:既然Jesus是爱人类的,但是问什么经常造出一些灾害让那么多好人死去? Jesus会说中文吗?如果不会,我用中文祈祷他能听得懂吗?
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发表于 2015-4-13 11:32 |显示全部楼层
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发表于 2015-4-13 11:36 |显示全部楼层
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I rather suggest a book called : “10万个为什么”

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gorilla 发表于 2015-4-13 11:36
I rather suggest a book called : “10万个为什么”

For teens

发表于 2015-4-13 12:01 |显示全部楼层
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梅花香 发表于 2015-4-13 10:29
那最好的办法是不是大人先看一遍,然后再根据你家的信仰来决定。图书馆有借。

这本书staying on the New ...


楼主是个负责的好妈妈.
如果孩子到了teenager 的年龄,这本书又如此popular,我会自己读一下,然后和孩子讨论,但不会推荐给孩子看.
我想书中的观点也不是什么新鲜的观点,不正是当下流行的一些观点吗? 流行是流行,但是不是对孩子有好处, 家长要多考虑了.
对政治只有遥远的兴趣。穿越谎言,拨开迷雾,见证历史
今生戒不掉的毒瘾,是对咖啡最长情的告白

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梅花香 发表于 2015-4-13 11:43
For teens

r u sure your teenages would read your book?
吃瓜群众·

发表于 2015-4-13 12:30 |显示全部楼层
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我google 了一下, 在amazon preview, 觉得是垃圾,哗众取宠而已. (个人观点,希望没有冒犯到其他人)
下面两个review,我个人比较赞成.

1Same old...

ByLew Craig "rockyroad"on March 15, 2010

Format: Hardcover

Do what you want, no guilt, nothing is right or wrong? No commitments, just feel good. Tired of your partner? Just get a new one. Everyone else is okay unless they're trying to get you to do something you don't want to do.

This moral relativism is leading our society down the path of decline. Whether you are a Jew, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu or agnostic, life is enhanced by some self-discipline and guts to stand for something. There is good and evil in the world, right and wrong. If we don't stand up for it, we'll descend into a pile of garbage. This is a rehash of the 60's philosophy of do your own thing, free sex, drugs, feel good, it doesn't hurt any one but me. These are all lies that degrade our society. If you don't believe it, teach school for a while. See the hippy grandchildren paying the price for the selfish drug induced excess of their parents and grandparents. We've been there done that. It wasn't very pretty. I didn't buy it then and I'm not buying it now.

Give me individuals who believe in hard work, discipline, saving rather than spending, community service, a view that goes beyond their own noses and pleasures. That's what makes a society and its people great. Get out and do something for someone and most the neurotic worries about self will disappear. That's what is basic to all major religions. They have survived for millennia because they work and will long outlast Mr. Walsch. I'm far from perfect, but I know wisdom when I see it. This isn't it.

234 of 301 people found the following review helpful

1.0 out of 5 stars  Seems harmless, but so did the apple in the garden, May 20, 1998

By A Customer


This review is from: Conversations with God: An Uncommon Dialogue, Book 1 (Hardcover)

I read this book when it first appeared in hardback. My mom, in an attempt to buy me a book on religion, got it for me for Christmas one year. As an young, growing Christian, I took the opportunity to read it, and honestly, I could not put it down. It was so enticing and captivating, and seemingly insightful that I ended up reading it all in a day. When finished, I was more in a daze than anything else. Walsch's innovative approach to his personal relationship with God, and the results totally took me by surprise. It was contrary to everything I had known to be true about God up to that point in my life. Some of the ideas were revolutionary, but they totally made sense to me. Sure, why can't God be flip. Sure, I imagine that God could speak to a common layperson, and inspire a book like this one. It is well written and very easy to read, and, as I said, hard to put down. There's one problem though. If you believe in the Bible, Walsch's book is not biblical. Not even close. Not because Walsch claims that God inspired the book....God would never inspire something that contradicted himself. 2Timothy 4:3 says, "For the time will come when they will not edure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths." Walsch is giving you what you want to hear, but do not mistake it for anything close to a realistic look at God. If you want to know or have a converstaion with God, pick up that dusty Bible of yours and look in there for the answers. Walsch's book appears harmless, and upon reading opens many new doors for human thought and action. But I am reminded of how the devil offered Eve that apple saying that God wouldn't punish them--that it was no big deal. The apple appeared harmless......but look what happened afterward. You can make your own choice, just like Eve did.


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今生戒不掉的毒瘾,是对咖啡最长情的告白
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发表于 2015-4-13 16:45 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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楼上好眼力!贴了两个最差评。
为公平起见,我也贴两个我比较赞同的好评,给大家参考。

I think the reason most people even pick up this book in a store is because they're searching for something. Something missing from their lives, something they've lost and are unable to find, a piece of their soul that's broken away -- whatever the case may be. I firmly believe that there is a reason each and every person who picks up this book ends up reading it. Some might feel that Walsch is being blasphemous. Some might feel he's creating God to be something others don't believe He is. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and mine is that this book literally changed my life and the relationship that I have with God. Because of this book, I've opened my heart and my mind. And it's really made me re-evaluate why I'm here and the role I play in God's life and vice versa.

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Another book that my dad gave me.

I am personally not supportive of organized religion in any way. In fact, I feel that organized religion breeds hatred & ignorance. That last statement will likely upset a lot of people, including ones that I love respect. But... it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I believe that Neale Donald Walsh's "Conversations with God" books can likely offend in the same sense, which is probably why I agree with so much of what is written about in these books.

I have always considered myself to be a very spiritual person, but have struggled with the fact that I cannot bring myself to be a part of any religious organization. I have always felt trapped and closed off when I've gone to church. These books made me so much more comfortable with who I feel that I am and really made me think about why I believe what I believe.

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看了看摘要,年轻人要有多呆多死板,才会问这种傻问题阿?

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可以找到的话也读一下那个教会网站推荐的书来做对比,应该会有答案。

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柠檬飘香 发表于 2015-4-13 18:05
可以找到的话也读一下那个教会网站推荐的书来做对比,应该会有答案。


Read with an open mind!
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争议越多,越吸引人,一路看下来,就因评论有好有坏,也激起我的好奇之心,看完再决定以后会不会推荐给自己的孩子。

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为孩子选择书籍, 还有学校,真的是与家长的信仰,对孩子的期望和评判标准息息相关.

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icelemontea 发表于 2015-4-14 10:44
为孩子选择书籍, 还有学校,真的是与家长的信仰,对孩子的期望和评判标准息息相关. ...

说是给孩子选择的自由,都是相对的啦

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