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伯纳乌的毕加索震惊欧洲厄齐尔让皇马梦回齐达内时代最后跟贴：原帖由 Hardyfarm 于 2011-12-13 12:38 发表没有实现，楼上的所以我说败人品啊最后发表：沉默需烈酒香烟	Hardyfarm 2010-10-24 11:52	4990	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-13 14:13
[足球] 申花称正接洽前世界足球先生名气远超阿内尔卡最后跟贴：申花想干嘛，呵呵，申花踢的不是球，是眼球最后发表：澳洲是传说	团结的腹肌 2011-12-13 11:35	191346	澳洲是传说 2011-12-13 13:26
[足球] 11~12赛季，英超15轮聊球帖最后跟贴：得了把,排名还在我前面呢.. 最后发表：idog8818 ...2 3 4 5 6..10	tld128 2011-12-10 10:33	2909495	idog8818 2011-12-13 11:31
[足球] 巴萨的软肋在门将上，皇马恰恰相反，除了门将都是软肋！！最后跟贴：说反了吧，现在是巴萨追着皇马跑，等着皇马出错最后发表：沉默需烈酒香烟	花正红 2011-12-11 14:25	251710	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-13 09:24
[足球] 有TX在墨尔本Caulfield附近周末踢球吗？最后跟贴：好像大伙儿都搬到Blackburn一带, 跑哪边踢去了, 太远啦. 最后发表：remonyan	remonyan 2011-12-11 14:21	2961	remonyan 2011-12-12 19:43
[足球] 有人玩FIFA12吗？太BT了最后跟贴：原帖由 shellte 于 2011-12-12 18:34 发表没错，就是传奇难度。我只是觉得，并不是每个队都需要一定退回本方半场防守，然后站住了，堆够了人，才能把球断下来。相反有不少打法是就地反抢，或者小范围对方半场压迫，尤其是对付弱队的时候，是可以把对方的攻击打散，或者让对方 ... 没有必要阿，就算是传奇难度，你试试用ＮＡＰＯＬＩ的343打法。操作得好，也是就地反抢，压对方半场打的。最后发表：gifox	大成若缺 2011-12-9 18:39	181421	gifox 2011-12-12 19:19
[足球] what a loser 最后跟贴：几个月前? 你要不要去查查看他们小时候是不是上一家幼儿园的, 皮克有没有抢过马塞洛的苹果啊, 那句话怎么说来着? 女人可真是记仇啊就是找不出来了? 那就别嘴硬了, 都说了找一个证据那么简单咯, 你码那么多字是何苦呢最后发表：团结的腹肌	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 10:22	151226	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 11:25
[足球] ZT: 转一篇不错的球评最后跟贴：http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/11/real-madrid-1-3-barcelona-tactics/ Real Madrid 1-3 Barcelona: Real press early on, but tactical switch gives Barca the upper hand December 11, 2011 The starting line-ups Jose Mourinho surprised many with his team selection, but Pep Guardiola adapted to guide Barcelona to victory. The surprise was with the use of Mesut Ozil, who most expected to be omitted in favour of an extra defensive midfielder. In fact, it was Real’s usual front four in a 4-2-3-1 system. Lassana Diarra did start, but in place of Khedira, whilst Fabio Coentrao played at right-back. Guardiola had faith in the fitness of Gerard Pique and Carles Puyol, and dropped Javier Mascherano. He went with Cesc Fabregas and Alexis Sanchez further forward. Question number one in the preview was ‘Will Real press?’ – a question that was answered emphatically within the first thirty seconds. Barcelona tried to play out from the back, Victor Valdes got his pass wrong, and Benzema fired home for the earliest goal in Clasico history. Pressing and Ozil That was the best possible start for the home side, and Real’s pressing was, as expected, most obvious in the first 20-30 minutes of the match. They prevented Barca from constructing good moves from the back, although the Barcelona defence admirably remained committed to passing football throughout the match. However, it was notable that Real’s attacking band of three had little impact when they won, even when given opportunities on the ball. Cristiano Ronaldo was a peripheral figure, Ozil created little and was removed early in the second half, Di Maria battled well but his end product was often poor. By asking his attacking players to work extremely hard without the ball, maybe Mourinho drained them of the energy they needed when attacking. The big decision, the use of Ozil, was unsuccessful. Although he he saw a fair amount of the ball in the first half, he rarely played a key pass. Without the ball, he always seemed a couple of yards too slow to close down, and Real could have done with an extra holding player to congest the centre of the pitch – Messi came deep and got too much room. Barcelona starting shape Even taking into account the inevitable fluidity, Barcelona’s starting line-up was difficult to decipher. Taking the 4-3-3 as a base, Andres Iniesta was wider than usual, Messi was more of a number ten than a false nine, Cesc Fabregas wasn’t part of the forward line at all (as he often has been this season) but tucked into midfield and seemingly not really knowing what his job was, whilst Alexis Sanchez started on the left but made diagonal runs across the pitch into a centre-forward position. The approach was reminiscent of the formation Guardiola used in Barcelona’s 2-0 win at the Bernabeu in April 2010, when he used Messi deep and right-of-centre, and Pedro Rodriguez as a left-sided forward. Sanchez did particularly well to occupy both centre-backs and often Coentrao too – with Iniesta always coming from deeper to try and overload the Portuguese full-back. After around 20 minutes Guardiola switched players around Barcelona And, perhaps recalling that 2-0 win, Guardiola moved his side even further towards that system after around 20 minutes. He ordered Dani Alves forward to a right-wing position, Carles Puyol out to right-back, Gerard Pique moved across, and Sergio Busquets dropped to left centre-back. Fabregas moved deeper to help out in midfield, and Barcelona were broadly 4-4-1-1. The precise reason he decided upon this change is unclear, but it had various benefits: 1) It meant that Busquets, identified as key in the preview of the match because of his ability to prompt good attacking moves, was away from the press of Ozil and could start to feed balls into midfield. He also bravely continued to step out of the back when Barcelona attacked – he got tight to Ozil so Xavi could move forward to the edge of the box. 2) Ronaldo had been a threat early on with a couple of decent chances, but by putting Puyol on him, and often doubling up with both Puyol and Pique (plus the occasional help of Alves), Guardiola almost completely nullified Ronaldo’s threat. Ronaldo had a very quiet game, and Mourinho tried to spark him into life by moving him to the right in the second half, summing up how effective Guardiola’s change had been. 3) It gave Barcelona more width with the use of Alves, something that was desperately lacking in the early stages. He enjoyed the large amount of space between Marcelo and Ronaldo and was constantly an out-ball on the break, most obviously getting down the flank to cross for Fabregas’ header, the third goal. 4) Least crucially, but nevertheless a factor, Fabregas dropped deeper and seemed to know what he was doing more, particularly in the second half. It was after the switch that Ozil really should have had more of an impact – there was theoretically plenty of space between the lines for him, but Busquets continued to close him down and prevented him being key in the transitions. As the average position diagram shows, even in the second half when part of the back four, he often moved up much higher than the other three defenders, so there was an element of Guardiola’s three-man defence. Messi Unlike in the Supercup when Mourinho ordered Ricardo Carvalho to stick tight to Messi, this time he went free. There was a good reason for the centre-backs staying in place – Messi was playing as a number ten (and often even deeper than that) rather than a false nine, but with Diarra and Alonso taking on Fabregas and Xavi in the centre, it meant Messi often got an amazing amount of time on the ball, despite a good battling performance from Diarra. Barcelona's average positions in each half. Source: Opta's @OptaJose twitter account For the first goal Messi was able to pick up speed before beating both Alonso and Diarra and slipping the ball through for Sanchez, for the third he passes the ball out to Alves on the break after receiving the ball in space. For all the other tactical factors in this match, Messi not being accounted for was very important. He simply got too much room. Latter stages and changes Real were extremely unfortunate with the second goal, but the third seemed to kill the game, even after 66 minutes. Mourinho’s side went flat and Barcelona now became focused upon ball retention. This was probably the stage when Real were hoping to sit deep and remain compact (whether winning or drawing) but with a two goal deficit they had to be more proactive. Kaka had already replaced Ozil (and did OK), the other changes saw Khedira on for Diarra after the Frenchman had been booked, and then Gonzalo Higuain on for Di Maria, who had probably contributed more than Ronaldo. Higuain went upfront and Benzema went left, going close on one occasion after beating Puyol. The changes weren’t particularly inspired, but they did give Real extra energy. Barcelona slowed the tempo of the game well, and could have added a fourth on the break. Guardiola’s changes were all after 80 minutes and all roughly like-for-like – Seydou Keita, David Villa and Pedro all came on, but the game changed little with their introduction. Conclusion Mourinho has often been criticized for not being brave enough against Barcelona – but here he went with an attack-minded side featuring his usual front four, and also looked to press from the front early on. The pressing broadly worked, the use of Ozil broadly didn’t. The minimal benefit Real gained from playing a central attacking playmaker was more than cancelled out by the amount of space Messi often found; space he surely wouldn’t have enjoyed had Real played an extra (more defensive-minded) midfield player. It’s impossible to know if the alternative formation would have worked – and it might have meant space for another Barcelona elsewhere on the pitch, but giving space to any other player is preferable to allowing Messi to thrive. Mourinho will point to elements of bad luck, and the fact that Guardiola needed to change formation for Barcelona to exert dominance. But Guardiola did so successfully, and Real didn’t counter-adapt. The Barcelona players who changed position all had excellent games – Busquets played the centre-half role superbly well, a job few other players could do; Puyol was seldom beaten by Ronaldo in one-on-one situations, and Alves motoring up and down the right was crucial in the second period. A tactical victory for Guardiola. 最后发表：团结的腹肌	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 10:44	01046	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 10:44
[足球] 11.12.2011 Sunday 8:00am El Clasico - 火拼- 巴塞罗那 v 皇家马德里最后跟贴：新浪最后发表：哇哇哇 ...2 3 4 5 6..25	猪猪的宝贝 2011-12-6 11:22	73327430	哇哇哇 2011-12-12 09:55
[足球] 世纪德比后的马后炮：扒开PG找NK 最后跟贴：C罗那个要是转给右边无人防守的272，闭着眼睛都进去了，当时就已经2:0了，只可惜穆或者C罗没有sand of time和那个小匕首。作为巴萨fun，太感谢高帅富了我觉得皇马以后可以安排C罗去背红牌，即使被罚下去了，整体实力会更强看一篇报道说科恩特朗是左边锋出身，在皇马却打左后卫，昨天竟然上右后卫。不知此人有何背景，要被如此的捧？下半场巴萨基本就是盯着皇马右边打，小白在那里简直是如入无人之境。最后发表：蓝爸爸	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-11 21:58	101383	蓝爸爸 2011-12-12 09:50
[篮球] NBA 交易动态 -- NBA nixes Paul deal 最后跟贴：最后还是会做成交易的，换个说法而已最后发表：airmelbourne	iceman 2011-12-9 18:49	11048	airmelbourne 2011-12-10 21:18
[足球] 有多少假球可以重来？最后跟贴：原帖由花正红于 2011-12-10 15:51 发表浪漫的结局不好吗？值得期待！觉得比卢兄和五毛的靠谱最后发表：ningjacky ...2 3 4	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-7 15:52	964586	ningjacky 2011-12-10 18:32
[足球] sbs 在直播曼联对巴塞尔最后跟贴：简单的看了几页。。。身为枪手，看到红魔哭穷。。。默默的路过。。。最后发表：holyplague ...2 3	leobaby 2011-12-8 06:56	793580	holyplague 2011-12-9 23:39
[足球] 阿贾克斯死不瞑目最后跟贴：你们太逗了 Fifa打死不要电视裁判，就是为了这个，能够更好的操纵比赛结果最后发表：garysu ...2	DEC 2011-12-8 10:24	422679	garysu 2011-12-9 20:57
[足球] 欧冠-队长重伤曼联爆大冷输球 6年后再次小组出局最后跟贴：说明打豪门适合穿红蓝球衣~~ 看莱万特和巴塞尔。。最后发表：墨村小小东	lemonctp 2011-12-8 10:06	31032	墨村小小东 2011-12-8 23:09
[综合] Dancing Class 最后跟贴：Does anyone know any dancing class around Hurstville organized by Chinese people? I want to learn...... 最后发表：Starway	Starway 2011-12-8 09:49	01047	Starway 2011-12-8 09:49
[网球] 2011年- 足迹同学们的网球新闻和聊球贴最后跟贴：最后发表：dizzypiggy ...2 3 4 5 6..184	dootbear 2011-3-2 08:02	5491236980	dizzypiggy 2011-12-6 17:36
[足球] 11~12赛季英超第14轮聊球帖最后跟贴：华版，梅若华？最后发表：干部 ...2 3 4 5 6..10	tld128 2011-12-3 16:05	28412143	干部 2011-12-6 12:07
[足球] 一个老外球迷眼中的2011中超，荷兰人有亮点最后跟贴：原文 - http://wildeastfootball.net/2011 ... se-football-awards/ 最后发表：KSM	KSM 2011-12-6 09:21	1924	KSM 2011-12-6 09:22
[足球] 苏格拉底去世了最后跟贴：足球大师最后发表：aicjt	leobaby 2011-12-5 23:08	121341	aicjt 2011-12-6 00:11
[足球] 11-12英超足球经理RD11- 私人PK之 Pacific vs Northwind 最后跟贴：原帖由干部于 2011-12-5 11:31 发表我说你们赌赢了的，也不感谢一下干部。从来没有人评球像干部这么实在，冒着被拍的风险直接给出结果的，而且是正确结果。。。。忘了下注最后发表：PACIFIC ...2 3 4	北风 2011-11-28 15:14	1104880	PACIFIC 2011-12-5 23:38
[足球] 瓜迪奥拉：上帝请告诉我应该踢433还是343 .穆里尼奥：上帝来猜我踢4231还是433 最后跟贴：周日找人演练了下视频里的内容，结论是假摔可能性和真摔可能性一样大。但是下脚了，拿牌就没辙了。最后发表：cheapers2003 ...2 3 4 5 6..8	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-11-28 13:43	2148782	cheapers2003 2011-12-5 21:21
[足球] 听说国家德比巴萨要踢352。。。最后跟贴：澳洲，足球的荒漠...... 最后发表：澳洲木匠	墨村小小东 2011-12-2 18:37	81134	澳洲木匠 2011-12-5 18:17
[足球] 辽宁宏运足球俱乐部正式宣布退出亚冠联赛资格赛最后跟贴：真可惜~~ 最后发表：LifesoCool	Hardyfarm 2011-12-2 23:01	291608	LifesoCool 2011-12-5 16:53
[综合] 墨尔本有喜欢打棒球的吗？最后跟贴：澳洲棒球联赛http://web.theabl.com.au/index.jsp?sid=t4067 最后发表：Carol光光	Carol光光 2011-12-5 10:48	01252	Carol光光 2011-12-5 10:48
[足球] 欧洲杯抽签：德国荷兰葡萄牙入死亡之组意大利PK西班牙最后跟贴：好，德国和葡萄牙争夺一个出线名额最后发表：PACIFIC	Hardyfarm 2011-12-3 09:49	141354	PACIFIC 2011-12-5 00:02
[足球] 明天（12月4号）Kogarah Jubilee Oval 悉尼FC vs 36场不败的布里斯班Roar 有人想去看吗？最后跟贴：SYDNEY FC 2-0 最后发表：gascoigne	gascoigne 2011-12-3 21:20	61169	gascoigne 2011-12-4 21:33
[综合] 能不能给我推荐个VPN看PPLIVE英超直播啊最后跟贴：mark 最后发表：baobeima	jamespyq 2011-11-30 22:08	111302	baobeima 2011-12-4 08:20
[综合] 七十多啦，现在学体操还来得及吗？最后跟贴：呵呵滑人了得最后发表：cheapers2003	clzhang 2011-12-2 15:15	201482	cheapers2003 2011-12-3 12:49
[篮球] NBA看来终于要开赛啦最后跟贴：玩了将近十年Yahoo NBA Fantasy啦，今年可能要搁浅啦。。。唉最后发表：kersey	kersey 2011-11-27 01:37	201360	kersey 2011-12-2 16:03
[综合] 六十多了，想学橄榄球还来得及吗？最后跟贴：70 岁了，想学Mixed martial arts 还来得及吗？对了ufc 有没有年龄限制的？最后发表：miller2	背包客 2011-12-2 00:32	121095	miller2 2011-12-2 15:56
[篮球] 这几天CBA看的很爽啊。。有同看的么？最后跟贴：我也很喜欢cba，但是，几轮看下来，感觉，新人很多，身体都不错，但是没有特别突出的，不想以前，王治郅，姚明，还有一个半路废了的许咏，他们是一出场，就感觉和别人不一样，而且水平是一年比一年高。现在新人看看不错，偶尔给你来两个意象不到的动作，但是，一两年后，你发现他们还是那样。像东莞队，前两年出来一批新人，等到该出成绩了，发现，他们还是没有比同龄人特别突出！中国篮球看来，还不可能像96年后的阿根廷那样，一鸣惊人！！最后发表：winterwy	future2521 2011-11-23 22:33	101094	winterwy 2011-12-2 15:44
[综合] 墨尔本周六晚看澳洲棒球联赛最后跟贴：周六墨尔本 union hotel (252 union road, ascot vale) 一起看澳洲棒球联赛墨尔本客场挑战阿德莱德最后发表：Carol光光	Carol光光 2011-12-2 11:36	0893	Carol光光 2011-12-2 11:36
[综合] 聊聊澳洲橄榄球！最后跟贴：从来的那年开始就知道澳洲就是玩橄榄球的，以前澳洲新西兰和南非他们三足鼎立，但是现在基本上南非已经退出舞台了。其实澳洲人体格并不是世界上最强壮的，但是为什么在这种橄榄球当中却能鹤立鸡群呢？前一阵的的世界杯我也看了不少，感觉美国爱尔兰威尔士等国家其实体格并不比澳洲和新西兰差，但是不知为什么就是打不过。。。。。。最后发表：x540d	x540d 2011-12-1 13:47	0818	x540d 2011-12-1 13:47
[足球] 27/11 ： MELB 东南区 orchard grove primary school 球赛最后跟贴：lz，是哪天的1点30阿？不会是天天的吧？最后发表：huaxianz	小刚哥 2011-10-31 18:50	61121	huaxianz 2011-12-1 13:26
[综合] 悉尼有snorkelling 的吕童鞋吗最后跟贴：呃。。。墨尔本的飘过。。。。 snorkelling挺好玩的，准备去学scuba diving。。。最后发表：小麦麦	salli-anne2009 2011-12-1 12:50	1800	小麦麦 2011-12-1 12:59
[综合] 悉尼哪有自发组织打篮球和网球的地方啊？最后跟贴：什么叫3 SETS 网球啊。。。。呵呵最后发表：2310889403	2310889403 2011-10-15 15:40	91210	2310889403 2011-12-1 09:38
[足球] 发个帖纪念下最后跟贴：看热闹。。。最后发表：花正红	墨村小小东 2011-11-30 20:30	31000	花正红 2011-11-30 21:46
[综合] 哪里购买心率表？最后跟贴：多谢楼上同学热心回答。最后发表：xaec203	xaec203 2011-11-15 20:49	91138	xaec203 2011-11-30 15:57
[足球] 蓝军墓志铭：Blue is the color 最后跟贴：凤凰涅磐ing 最后发表：Explorer	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-11-30 10:10	1844	Explorer 2011-11-30 14:52