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[足球] 11~12赛季，英超第16轮，聊球帖最后跟贴：猴哥昨晚嘛情况？最后发表：Explorer ...2 3 4 5 6..9	tld128 2011-12-17 10:07	2568451	Explorer 2011-12-19 10:19
[足球] 97国家队对前广州太阳神明星队广东体育直播最后跟贴：都踢完了，你排啥？最后发表：tld128	leobaby 2011-12-18 17:47	91036	tld128 2011-12-19 10:17
[足球] 2011世俱杯聊天贴最后跟贴：晚了最后发表：leobaby ...2 3 4 5 6..8	哇哇哇 2011-12-15 11:45	2167108	leobaby 2011-12-18 23:42
[足球] 世俱杯决赛sbs 2 直播最后跟贴：能给个链接地址吗？多谢最后发表：澳洲木匠	hunthouse 2011-12-18 21:12	31170	澳洲木匠 2011-12-18 22:15
[足球] 阿内尔卡转会申花了最后跟贴：原帖由 chiny 于 2011-12-18 01:48 发表朱骏是谁？？阿内尔卡是那个天桥上卖羊肉串的老头吗(paopaobing(32)) 最后发表：clzhang ...2 3 4	澳洲是传说 2011-12-12 19:26	1024190	clzhang 2011-12-18 18:05
[综合] 3天两杆147！丁俊晖PTC11再轰生涯第4杆满分147 最后跟贴：太给力了，小丁同学！最后发表：花正红	PACIFIC 2011-12-18 01:46	1946	花正红 2011-12-18 18:03
[足球] 欧冠淘汰赛抽签出炉！ AC米兰对阿森纳切尔西遇黑马那不勒斯最后跟贴：大膽預言阿賈克斯淘汰曼聯本來應該踢歐冠16強的，被黑了去歐聯杯，UEFA怎麽也得還個人情債最后发表：hbyu	Hardyfarm 2011-12-16 22:30	141276	hbyu 2011-12-17 20:33
[综合] kew或richmond 附近哪里有乒乓球场馆啊？？最后跟贴：那不是只有游泳场馆吗？最后发表：achollis	achollis 2011-12-15 23:30	51461	achollis 2011-12-17 14:57
[足球] 晒一下球衣服的藏品最后跟贴：如果配上意甲章就完美了，好像那时期的章不比衣服便宜。最后发表：gascoigne	gifox 2011-12-9 23:10	271380	gascoigne 2011-12-16 23:01
[足球] 11-12英超足球经理RD15- 私人PK之 3W vs Liaoning 最后跟贴：梦梦忙着去罗马拜教皇，当然你结了。。。最后发表：干部 ...2 3 4 5	干部 2011-12-6 14:39	1354827	干部 2011-12-15 16:34
[足球] 巴萨喉舌疯狂羞辱穆里尼奥：8战1胜无能到家最后跟贴：原帖由猪猪的宝贝于 2011-12-13 14:32 发表亮点亮点，有人表白了~~~ 哈哈，瞎起哄，沉香改变一些，很多见解还是值得推崇的最后发表：花正红 ...2	tld128 2011-12-12 20:16	321978	花正红 2011-12-13 20:55
[足球] 恒大遭遇“死亡之组”碰日韩泰冠军最后跟贴：那里算死亡之组。太阳神也是个新科冠军，可以欺负，泰国冠军怕他吗？和全北的比赛要慎重就好，出现应该没问题。泰达和北京的对手比恒大困难多了。最后发表：zcwhy	clzhang 2011-12-6 21:49	111095	zcwhy 2011-12-13 19:56
伯纳乌的毕加索震惊欧洲厄齐尔让皇马梦回齐达内时代最后跟贴：原帖由 Hardyfarm 于 2011-12-13 12:38 发表没有实现，楼上的所以我说败人品啊最后发表：沉默需烈酒香烟	Hardyfarm 2010-10-24 11:52	4906	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-13 14:13
[足球] 申花称正接洽前世界足球先生名气远超阿内尔卡最后跟贴：申花想干嘛，呵呵，申花踢的不是球，是眼球最后发表：澳洲是传说	团结的腹肌 2011-12-13 11:35	191252	澳洲是传说 2011-12-13 13:26
[足球] 11~12赛季，英超15轮聊球帖最后跟贴：得了把,排名还在我前面呢.. 最后发表：idog8818 ...2 3 4 5 6..10	tld128 2011-12-10 10:33	2908817	idog8818 2011-12-13 11:31
[足球] 巴萨的软肋在门将上，皇马恰恰相反，除了门将都是软肋！！最后跟贴：说反了吧，现在是巴萨追着皇马跑，等着皇马出错最后发表：沉默需烈酒香烟	花正红 2011-12-11 14:25	251616	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-13 09:24
[足球] 有TX在墨尔本Caulfield附近周末踢球吗？最后跟贴：好像大伙儿都搬到Blackburn一带, 跑哪边踢去了, 太远啦. 最后发表：remonyan	remonyan 2011-12-11 14:21	2887	remonyan 2011-12-12 19:43
[足球] 有人玩FIFA12吗？太BT了最后跟贴：原帖由 shellte 于 2011-12-12 18:34 发表没错，就是传奇难度。我只是觉得，并不是每个队都需要一定退回本方半场防守，然后站住了，堆够了人，才能把球断下来。相反有不少打法是就地反抢，或者小范围对方半场压迫，尤其是对付弱队的时候，是可以把对方的攻击打散，或者让对方 ... 没有必要阿，就算是传奇难度，你试试用ＮＡＰＯＬＩ的343打法。操作得好，也是就地反抢，压对方半场打的。最后发表：gifox	大成若缺 2011-12-9 18:39	181314	gifox 2011-12-12 19:19
[足球] what a loser 最后跟贴：几个月前? 你要不要去查查看他们小时候是不是上一家幼儿园的, 皮克有没有抢过马塞洛的苹果啊, 那句话怎么说来着? 女人可真是记仇啊就是找不出来了? 那就别嘴硬了, 都说了找一个证据那么简单咯, 你码那么多字是何苦呢最后发表：团结的腹肌	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 10:22	151141	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 11:25
[足球] ZT: 转一篇不错的球评最后跟贴：http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/12/11/real-madrid-1-3-barcelona-tactics/ Real Madrid 1-3 Barcelona: Real press early on, but tactical switch gives Barca the upper hand December 11, 2011 The starting line-ups Jose Mourinho surprised many with his team selection, but Pep Guardiola adapted to guide Barcelona to victory. The surprise was with the use of Mesut Ozil, who most expected to be omitted in favour of an extra defensive midfielder. In fact, it was Real’s usual front four in a 4-2-3-1 system. Lassana Diarra did start, but in place of Khedira, whilst Fabio Coentrao played at right-back. Guardiola had faith in the fitness of Gerard Pique and Carles Puyol, and dropped Javier Mascherano. He went with Cesc Fabregas and Alexis Sanchez further forward. Question number one in the preview was ‘Will Real press?’ – a question that was answered emphatically within the first thirty seconds. Barcelona tried to play out from the back, Victor Valdes got his pass wrong, and Benzema fired home for the earliest goal in Clasico history. Pressing and Ozil That was the best possible start for the home side, and Real’s pressing was, as expected, most obvious in the first 20-30 minutes of the match. They prevented Barca from constructing good moves from the back, although the Barcelona defence admirably remained committed to passing football throughout the match. However, it was notable that Real’s attacking band of three had little impact when they won, even when given opportunities on the ball. Cristiano Ronaldo was a peripheral figure, Ozil created little and was removed early in the second half, Di Maria battled well but his end product was often poor. By asking his attacking players to work extremely hard without the ball, maybe Mourinho drained them of the energy they needed when attacking. The big decision, the use of Ozil, was unsuccessful. Although he he saw a fair amount of the ball in the first half, he rarely played a key pass. Without the ball, he always seemed a couple of yards too slow to close down, and Real could have done with an extra holding player to congest the centre of the pitch – Messi came deep and got too much room. Barcelona starting shape Even taking into account the inevitable fluidity, Barcelona’s starting line-up was difficult to decipher. Taking the 4-3-3 as a base, Andres Iniesta was wider than usual, Messi was more of a number ten than a false nine, Cesc Fabregas wasn’t part of the forward line at all (as he often has been this season) but tucked into midfield and seemingly not really knowing what his job was, whilst Alexis Sanchez started on the left but made diagonal runs across the pitch into a centre-forward position. The approach was reminiscent of the formation Guardiola used in Barcelona’s 2-0 win at the Bernabeu in April 2010, when he used Messi deep and right-of-centre, and Pedro Rodriguez as a left-sided forward. Sanchez did particularly well to occupy both centre-backs and often Coentrao too – with Iniesta always coming from deeper to try and overload the Portuguese full-back. After around 20 minutes Guardiola switched players around Barcelona And, perhaps recalling that 2-0 win, Guardiola moved his side even further towards that system after around 20 minutes. He ordered Dani Alves forward to a right-wing position, Carles Puyol out to right-back, Gerard Pique moved across, and Sergio Busquets dropped to left centre-back. Fabregas moved deeper to help out in midfield, and Barcelona were broadly 4-4-1-1. The precise reason he decided upon this change is unclear, but it had various benefits: 1) It meant that Busquets, identified as key in the preview of the match because of his ability to prompt good attacking moves, was away from the press of Ozil and could start to feed balls into midfield. He also bravely continued to step out of the back when Barcelona attacked – he got tight to Ozil so Xavi could move forward to the edge of the box. 2) Ronaldo had been a threat early on with a couple of decent chances, but by putting Puyol on him, and often doubling up with both Puyol and Pique (plus the occasional help of Alves), Guardiola almost completely nullified Ronaldo’s threat. Ronaldo had a very quiet game, and Mourinho tried to spark him into life by moving him to the right in the second half, summing up how effective Guardiola’s change had been. 3) It gave Barcelona more width with the use of Alves, something that was desperately lacking in the early stages. He enjoyed the large amount of space between Marcelo and Ronaldo and was constantly an out-ball on the break, most obviously getting down the flank to cross for Fabregas’ header, the third goal. 4) Least crucially, but nevertheless a factor, Fabregas dropped deeper and seemed to know what he was doing more, particularly in the second half. It was after the switch that Ozil really should have had more of an impact – there was theoretically plenty of space between the lines for him, but Busquets continued to close him down and prevented him being key in the transitions. As the average position diagram shows, even in the second half when part of the back four, he often moved up much higher than the other three defenders, so there was an element of Guardiola’s three-man defence. Messi Unlike in the Supercup when Mourinho ordered Ricardo Carvalho to stick tight to Messi, this time he went free. There was a good reason for the centre-backs staying in place – Messi was playing as a number ten (and often even deeper than that) rather than a false nine, but with Diarra and Alonso taking on Fabregas and Xavi in the centre, it meant Messi often got an amazing amount of time on the ball, despite a good battling performance from Diarra. Barcelona's average positions in each half. Source: Opta's @OptaJose twitter account For the first goal Messi was able to pick up speed before beating both Alonso and Diarra and slipping the ball through for Sanchez, for the third he passes the ball out to Alves on the break after receiving the ball in space. For all the other tactical factors in this match, Messi not being accounted for was very important. He simply got too much room. Latter stages and changes Real were extremely unfortunate with the second goal, but the third seemed to kill the game, even after 66 minutes. Mourinho’s side went flat and Barcelona now became focused upon ball retention. This was probably the stage when Real were hoping to sit deep and remain compact (whether winning or drawing) but with a two goal deficit they had to be more proactive. Kaka had already replaced Ozil (and did OK), the other changes saw Khedira on for Diarra after the Frenchman had been booked, and then Gonzalo Higuain on for Di Maria, who had probably contributed more than Ronaldo. Higuain went upfront and Benzema went left, going close on one occasion after beating Puyol. The changes weren’t particularly inspired, but they did give Real extra energy. Barcelona slowed the tempo of the game well, and could have added a fourth on the break. Guardiola’s changes were all after 80 minutes and all roughly like-for-like – Seydou Keita, David Villa and Pedro all came on, but the game changed little with their introduction. Conclusion Mourinho has often been criticized for not being brave enough against Barcelona – but here he went with an attack-minded side featuring his usual front four, and also looked to press from the front early on. The pressing broadly worked, the use of Ozil broadly didn’t. The minimal benefit Real gained from playing a central attacking playmaker was more than cancelled out by the amount of space Messi often found; space he surely wouldn’t have enjoyed had Real played an extra (more defensive-minded) midfield player. It’s impossible to know if the alternative formation would have worked – and it might have meant space for another Barcelona elsewhere on the pitch, but giving space to any other player is preferable to allowing Messi to thrive. Mourinho will point to elements of bad luck, and the fact that Guardiola needed to change formation for Barcelona to exert dominance. But Guardiola did so successfully, and Real didn’t counter-adapt. The Barcelona players who changed position all had excellent games – Busquets played the centre-half role superbly well, a job few other players could do; Puyol was seldom beaten by Ronaldo in one-on-one situations, and Alves motoring up and down the right was crucial in the second period. A tactical victory for Guardiola. 最后发表：团结的腹肌	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 10:44	0976	团结的腹肌 2011-12-12 10:44
[足球] 11.12.2011 Sunday 8:00am El Clasico - 火拼- 巴塞罗那 v 皇家马德里最后跟贴：新浪最后发表：哇哇哇 ...2 3 4 5 6..25	猪猪的宝贝 2011-12-6 11:22	73325584	哇哇哇 2011-12-12 09:55
[足球] 世纪德比后的马后炮：扒开PG找NK 最后跟贴：C罗那个要是转给右边无人防守的272，闭着眼睛都进去了，当时就已经2:0了，只可惜穆或者C罗没有sand of time和那个小匕首。作为巴萨fun，太感谢高帅富了我觉得皇马以后可以安排C罗去背红牌，即使被罚下去了，整体实力会更强看一篇报道说科恩特朗是左边锋出身，在皇马却打左后卫，昨天竟然上右后卫。不知此人有何背景，要被如此的捧？下半场巴萨基本就是盯着皇马右边打，小白在那里简直是如入无人之境。最后发表：蓝爸爸	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-11 21:58	101279	蓝爸爸 2011-12-12 09:50
[篮球] NBA 交易动态 -- NBA nixes Paul deal 最后跟贴：最后还是会做成交易的，换个说法而已最后发表：airmelbourne	iceman 2011-12-9 18:49	1963	airmelbourne 2011-12-10 21:18
[足球] 有多少假球可以重来？最后跟贴：原帖由花正红于 2011-12-10 15:51 发表浪漫的结局不好吗？值得期待！觉得比卢兄和五毛的靠谱最后发表：ningjacky ...2 3 4	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-12-7 15:52	964333	ningjacky 2011-12-10 18:32
[足球] sbs 在直播曼联对巴塞尔最后跟贴：简单的看了几页。。。身为枪手，看到红魔哭穷。。。默默的路过。。。最后发表：holyplague ...2 3	leobaby 2011-12-8 06:56	793357	holyplague 2011-12-9 23:39
[足球] 阿贾克斯死不瞑目最后跟贴：你们太逗了 Fifa打死不要电视裁判，就是为了这个，能够更好的操纵比赛结果最后发表：garysu ...2	DEC 2011-12-8 10:24	422533	garysu 2011-12-9 20:57
[足球] 欧冠-队长重伤曼联爆大冷输球 6年后再次小组出局最后跟贴：说明打豪门适合穿红蓝球衣~~ 看莱万特和巴塞尔。。最后发表：墨村小小东	lemonctp 2011-12-8 10:06	3939	墨村小小东 2011-12-8 23:09
[综合] Dancing Class 最后跟贴：Does anyone know any dancing class around Hurstville organized by Chinese people? I want to learn...... 最后发表：Starway	Starway 2011-12-8 09:49	0986	Starway 2011-12-8 09:49
[网球] 2011年- 足迹同学们的网球新闻和聊球贴最后跟贴：最后发表：dizzypiggy ...2 3 4 5 6..184	dootbear 2011-3-2 08:02	5491184522	dizzypiggy 2011-12-6 17:36
[足球] 11~12赛季英超第14轮聊球帖最后跟贴：华版，梅若华？最后发表：干部 ...2 3 4 5 6..10	tld128 2011-12-3 16:05	28411470	干部 2011-12-6 12:07
[足球] 一个老外球迷眼中的2011中超，荷兰人有亮点最后跟贴：原文 - http://wildeastfootball.net/2011 ... se-football-awards/ 最后发表：KSM	KSM 2011-12-6 09:21	1880	KSM 2011-12-6 09:22
[足球] 苏格拉底去世了最后跟贴：足球大师最后发表：aicjt	leobaby 2011-12-5 23:08	121224	aicjt 2011-12-6 00:11
[足球] 11-12英超足球经理RD11- 私人PK之 Pacific vs Northwind 最后跟贴：原帖由干部于 2011-12-5 11:31 发表我说你们赌赢了的，也不感谢一下干部。从来没有人评球像干部这么实在，冒着被拍的风险直接给出结果的，而且是正确结果。。。。忘了下注最后发表：PACIFIC ...2 3 4	北风 2011-11-28 15:14	1104583	PACIFIC 2011-12-5 23:38
[足球] 瓜迪奥拉：上帝请告诉我应该踢433还是343 .穆里尼奥：上帝来猜我踢4231还是433 最后跟贴：周日找人演练了下视频里的内容，结论是假摔可能性和真摔可能性一样大。但是下脚了，拿牌就没辙了。最后发表：cheapers2003 ...2 3 4 5 6..8	沉默需烈酒香烟 2011-11-28 13:43	2148147	cheapers2003 2011-12-5 21:21
[足球] 听说国家德比巴萨要踢352。。。最后跟贴：澳洲，足球的荒漠...... 最后发表：澳洲木匠	墨村小小东 2011-12-2 18:37	81032	澳洲木匠 2011-12-5 18:17
[足球] 辽宁宏运足球俱乐部正式宣布退出亚冠联赛资格赛最后跟贴：真可惜~~ 最后发表：LifesoCool	Hardyfarm 2011-12-2 23:01	291501	LifesoCool 2011-12-5 16:53
[综合] 墨尔本有喜欢打棒球的吗？最后跟贴：澳洲棒球联赛http://web.theabl.com.au/index.jsp?sid=t4067 最后发表：Carol光光	Carol光光 2011-12-5 10:48	01166	Carol光光 2011-12-5 10:48
[足球] 欧洲杯抽签：德国荷兰葡萄牙入死亡之组意大利PK西班牙最后跟贴：好，德国和葡萄牙争夺一个出线名额最后发表：PACIFIC	Hardyfarm 2011-12-3 09:49	141256	PACIFIC 2011-12-5 00:02
[足球] 明天（12月4号）Kogarah Jubilee Oval 悉尼FC vs 36场不败的布里斯班Roar 有人想去看吗？最后跟贴：SYDNEY FC 2-0 最后发表：gascoigne	gascoigne 2011-12-3 21:20	61084	gascoigne 2011-12-4 21:33
[综合] 能不能给我推荐个VPN看PPLIVE英超直播啊最后跟贴：mark 最后发表：baobeima	jamespyq 2011-11-30 22:08	111234	baobeima 2011-12-4 08:20