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从中国汇钱最后跟贴：哦，谢谢。原来需要很多东西，明天去问问。最后发表：workhard	workhard 2009-7-8 17:12	21592	workhard 2009-7-8 21:31
人在中国，从中国汇给澳洲自己的悉尼花旗账户，可行吗？最后跟贴：要是这样的话，我在国内，通过网络，访问自己的花旗的online的账户，可以看到和收到我的汇款吗,也就是，收钱，不用我本人亲自去citibank(邮局)签收吧？ [ 本帖最后由 seanotyou 于 2009-7-7 11:21 编辑 ] 最后发表：seanotyou	seanotyou 2009-7-6 23:08	31607	seanotyou 2009-7-7 11:19
各位高手如何看FMG 股票的最后跟贴：FMG也算是实力股，不过好股票不代表一定会涨，特别小心OVERVALUED。个人认为铁矿股正在开始调整，而且远还没到结束阶段。最后发表：Devil_Star	jasminew 2009-7-6 21:54	22082	Devil_Star 2009-7-7 08:04
关于澳洲保险的问题最后跟贴：有的，不少40-50岁的华人女性都在做这样的保险代理最后发表：周立波	zljajlz 2009-7-6 18:57	51817	周立波 2009-7-6 20:10
行情软件推荐最后跟贴：最后发表：闪电侠	eswee 2009-6-30 17:20	152364	闪电侠 2009-7-4 00:16
有关澳洲基金的问题最后跟贴：我有些过一个基金的帖子。先看看吧：http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=40579 最后发表：黑山老妖	dorin 2009-7-2 11:56	41525	黑山老妖 2009-7-2 16:39
ZT 内地富豪香港理财遭集体血洗最多亏逾百亿最后跟贴：哎最后发表：czt81199	江上往来人 2009-4-25 19:32	202227	czt81199 2009-7-2 09:55
08年medicare levy surcharge起征点到底是多少？最后跟贴：没有孩子，结了婚的，也按个人算？？(monkey1) 最后发表：wyatt	Mei_Meng 2009-5-14 21:13	62248	wyatt 2009-7-1 08:55
关于COMSEC开户的$600免费brokerage 最后跟贴：我的也没有优惠呢?!不知道是不是不单单开通sec帐户. 最后发表：kathleen	风城兄弟 2009-6-19 18:48	172907	kathleen 2009-6-30 23:12
Commonwealth bank的intenet banking是不是坏了最后跟贴：不行啊，我怎么都开不了netbank logon的页面最后发表：joybank886 ...2	kyu 2009-6-29 13:07	353065	joybank886 2009-6-30 13:45
刚在CommSec开了帐户, 有个东西很奇怪最后跟贴：我和楼主是一样的,估计是钱还没真正到帐吧,过几天再看看最后发表：znby	mche23 2009-6-22 23:42	41906	znby 2009-6-30 11:52
高手们进来讨论一下FMG的后市吧最后跟贴：听说中铝对他有意思？不过今晚听新闻说中铝的兴趣又转去英国了最后发表：ressul	gemei 2009-6-21 20:13	11696	ressul 2009-6-29 19:39
重大利空-国有股转持社保开闸最后跟贴：不明白，反正大盘这几天天天在涨最后发表：似是故人来	Bella 2009-6-21 09:01	91838	似是故人来 2009-6-29 18:39
转个朋友发来的散户战法最后跟贴：收藏先最后发表：似是故人来	六把刀 2009-5-28 01:53	72066	似是故人来 2009-6-29 18:31
你如何对待曾经盈利但现却亏损的投资账户？最后跟贴：任何选1-4、6-10的人，都不可能真正的在投机市场上持续稳定盈利。从常识上判断的话，很少人会选择上面几项，基本上都会选择最后一项，但真正交易中，太多人会不自觉的选择上面几项。最后发表：猎梦人	沅 2009-2-5 13:45	162660	猎梦人 2009-6-28 19:05
大家都采用什么样的外汇交易系统/策略？投票最后跟贴：Scalping，快进快出，当天结清。 [ 本帖最后由 chatswood 于 2009-9-6 15:03 编辑 ] 最后发表：chatswood	Martin_2F 2009-4-14 12:51	42077	chatswood 2009-6-28 18:51
cma怎么样啊最后跟贴：原帖由 51688 于 2009-6-26 22:54 发表述俺直言,此种股票技术分析已经无意义,全凭赌命,与TAB无异,除非内幕. "赌"的因素在人生中各个环节都有，包括开车选那条路走，上大学选哪间学校哪个行业，毕业后选哪份工作，买房买哪个区买什么房等等。只是“赌命”倒是不到必要的时刻不应该去做的事情。德国巨头SCHOLZ能用比现在股价高2～3倍的价钱收购CMA 40％的股份，我估计应该不是用技术分析或者去TAB的形式决定的，我个人对SCRAP METALS市场的看法是，在经济低迷不稳定的时候，电弧焊炉比高炉更灵活更适合低成本运营， CMA的收购的锌铁分离技术专利非常有进一步发展的潜力，只是在经济低迷的时候要和SIMS这样的澳洲巨头抢货源，缺少SCALE OF ECONOMIC的优势并且和JOHN HOLLAND的官司，所以才导致股价的暂时低落。当然对这种小股来说，不管怎么看好，也不应该把“命”赌进去。最后发表：Devil_Star	wangwalter 2009-6-26 00:40	42197	Devil_Star 2009-6-28 13:36
在澳洲买石油期货最后跟贴：原帖由 blueray 于 2009-6-26 02:54 发表正解。还没睡，在看美国市场？等会要出去考试，今晚开夜车～刚刚去小睡了一会儿～最后发表：Devil_Star	liang 2009-6-3 17:38	143382	Devil_Star 2009-6-26 05:16
传中铝插足矿业巨头Xstrata与英美资源840亿美元并购案最后跟贴：传中铝插足矿业巨头Xstrata与英美资源840亿美元并购案传中铝插足矿业巨头Xstrata与英美资源840亿美元并购案2009年06月25日 16:10 财经25日讯据外媒报道中铝有可能成为Xstrata和Anglo American(英美资源集团)并购案的不速之客。周一Anglo拒绝了瑞士矿业巨头Xstrata公司的840亿美元合并提议，该计划将把两家公司在非洲、拉美和澳洲的煤、铜和锌矿资产合并。去年巴西淡水河谷虽已放弃了对Xstrata的收购，但是仍然对情况的发展十分关注。日本投行野村控股在一份研究报告中称，不能排除巴西淡水河谷或中国买家卷入Xstrata和Anglo谈判的可能。淡水河谷和中铝对于增长的要求都十分迫切，这已经是广为人知，在必和比拓与力拓计划在西澳皮尔巴拉建立合资公司之后，更增加了他们扩张的压力。伦敦金融城昨日出现关于中铝可能参与收购Anglo的传闻。同时，英国分析师认为淡水河谷作为全球最大铁矿石生产商的领导地位将因两拓的联盟而遭到破坏。淡水河谷的资产负债状况良好、现金充裕，既有实力又有行动的动机，收购Anglo可能会成为对淡水河谷产生重大意义的一次交易，从地域到大宗商品类别都能重新平衡其主要的投资组合。最后发表：jialiren	jialiren 2009-6-25 22:13	01284	jialiren 2009-6-25 22:13
关于从国内汇款最后跟贴：http://www.freeoz.org/forum/view ... hlight=%BB%E3%BF%EE 看上面的帖子，可以用工行网银自助换成澳元再汇过来，可以在网上自助完成。最后发表：shuyuanli	jsj_12 2009-6-25 20:28	11454	shuyuanli 2009-6-25 21:03
明天想买点股票最后跟贴：不要买！！自己都不知道，买哪一个，还玩股票？恕我直言，赚钱的机会不多。最后发表：williamlvs	wangwalter 2009-6-23 22:19	61743	williamlvs 2009-6-24 18:15
有人用的westpac交易平台吗？最后跟贴：有人用的westpac交易平台吗？好用吗。收费如何啊？最后发表：cigmm	cigmm 2009-6-24 14:29	01279	cigmm 2009-6-24 14:29
请问几个词的意思最后跟贴：原帖由大飞熊于 2009-6-24 13:15 发表不用客气。飞熊tx这是替谁收的感谢阿？最后发表：晴天又下雨	cigmm 2009-6-23 12:39	71477	晴天又下雨 2009-6-24 13:54
转帖－－－中国到底损失了多少亿？（附投资）最后跟贴：不河蟹怎么办？谁有办法？最后发表：alyssa ...2	江上往来人 2009-6-20 23:42	303072	alyssa 2009-6-24 12:42
澳洲股市的开市时间是什么最后跟贴：详细资料，摘自http://www.asx.com.au/resources/ ... ading_hours_asx.htm Equity Market Phases (Sydney times) 7am - 10am Pre-open 10am* Open 10am - 4pm Normal Trading 4pm - 4:10pm Pre CSPA 4:10pm - 4:12pm Closing Single Price Auction 4:12pm - 5pm Adjust 5:00pm - 6:50pm Adjust ON 6:50pm - 6:59pm Purge Orders 6:59pm - 7pm System Maintenance 7pm - 9:30pm Close 9:30pm - 2:25am System Unavailable 2:25am - 7:00am Close 最后发表：mylt	wangwalter 2009-6-23 16:49	62191	mylt 2009-6-23 21:37
请帮忙请教Rio Tinto 的 21 for 40 rights issues 是什么意思啊？最后跟贴：现在 rio tinto ltd-R跌到au$21左右，比给股东配股的$28.29还便宜，大家是不是就自己在市场上买$21而不去买给股东的配股了。这里就几个option不知道大家选那个： 1，take up all of your rio tinto limited rights 2,sell alll of your rio tinto limited rights on asx 3,take up some of your rio tinto limited rights and sell some of your rio tinto limited rights 4, transfer all or some of your rio tinto limited rights other than on ASX 5,do nothing 谢谢了，请发表意见。 4：00pm on Wednesday, 24 June 2009 Rio Tinto limited rights trading on ASX ends. 最后发表：buybuy	buybuy 2009-6-19 17:48	81702	buybuy 2009-6-22 21:32
求助关于e-trade开户最后跟贴：你要提供一个已有的ANZ或是其他相关的银行帐户，在网上申请啊，很是简单，申请完，回给你发个文件到你的EMAIL里，你打印出来，在复印一张你的驾照（找JP签个字），然后一起邮回总部，就等信就行了，最后发表：风城兄弟	paperily 2009-6-18 18:46	32602	风城兄弟 2009-6-22 20:22
申请完COMSEC帐户的Declaration form需要在JP面前签字吗？最后跟贴：打电话了，是不用JP面前签，谢了，昨天因为打了几个电话，都没打进去，所以上网来问问最后发表：风城兄弟	风城兄弟 2009-6-20 23:42	31451	风城兄弟 2009-6-21 13:09
ETRAD和COMSEC那个好？最后跟贴：只能是COMMWEALTH的现有客户才能链接吧，最后发表：风城兄弟	风城兄弟 2009-6-5 13:31	91987	风城兄弟 2009-6-20 23:52
最近手头有资金的股市投资投机战法最后跟贴：说的好。依此执行。原帖由六把刀于 2009-5-28 03:32 发表手头有资金，还是关注中国B，A股和港股，道纳指虽崩溃难说，但赚钱肯定不易，同理不看好澳股，操作股票一定要独立思考，绝对不要听金眼屎，胡猪流那些留美专家博士的夸夸其谈，更不要说那些纸上谈兵的小赵括们的屁话 ... 最后发表：ccj5124	六把刀 2009-5-28 03:32	31909	ccj5124 2009-6-20 10:57
谁有BHP的股票数据，多于yahoo的历史数据？最后跟贴：原帖由 007 于 2009-6-19 15:36 发表这有1994-2009澳洲全部股票的历史数据，免费。不过是for metastock的。但应该是txt文件，你自己转换 http://asx-metastock-historical-data.blogspot.com/ 这个网站我进不去，奇怪最后发表：cn_yy	qichxi 2009-6-19 01:21	181944	cn_yy 2009-6-19 18:56
怎么买澳洲的股票啊？最后跟贴：上BROKERS的网站下载申请表连同一些个人资料寄过去就行了。最后发表：Devil_Star	xiaoying 2009-6-19 13:15	41532	Devil_Star 2009-6-19 18:07
澳股流感主题最后跟贴：我只炒a股　看到流感概念　最近安达基因　莱因生物　都涨的不错请教澳股有类似概念股吗？最后发表：辰雨	辰雨 2009-6-19 02:05	01139	辰雨 2009-6-19 02:05
Bill Murphy: Manipulation Of The Gold Market 最后跟贴：Bill Murphy: Manipulation Of The Gold Market [转帖 2009-06-10 22:33:40] Bill Murphy: Manipulation Of The Gold Market Written by Lara Crigger Friday, 05 June 2009 12:49 Brad Zigler's recent feature, "Has Gold Been Manipulated?", which dismissed the possibility of price manipulation in the gold market, ignited a firestorm of comments and emails from our readers. That's why we decided to sit down with Bill Murphy, chairman and director of the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA), and hear the other side of the story. GATA is a nonprofit advocacy and education group dedicated to exposing and opposing manipulation in gold, precious metals and other financial markets. Before he helped found GATA, Murphy worked as a commodities broker on Wall Street; in 1998, he launched the popular gold market website, Le Metropole. Recently, HAI's associate editor Lara Crigger chatted with Murphy about GATA and its mission, including how manipulation would occur, where gold prices ought to be and who's really pulling the strings. Lara Crigger (Crigger): GATA argues that for over a decade, gold prices have been kept artificially low. Who's behind the manipulation, and why? Murphy: It's what we call "The Gold Cartel": The United States government is the main culprit, with "hit men" like Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan Chase, and other central banks, like the Bank of England. It's been going on for some time now. Basically, it all started with [former U.S. Treasury Secretary under the Clinton Administration] Robert Rubin, back when he was the head of Goldman Sachs in London. He would borrow gold from the central banks at a 1% interest rate, and then sell it. He took this idea and made it the essence of his "Strong Dollar Policy" [while at the U.S. Treasury]. Then there was Lawrence Summers, who followed him as Treasury Secretary. He once articulated the relationship between gold and interest rates in his paper, "Gibson's Paradox and the Gold Standard": Keep the gold price down, he said, and you keep interest rates down. Now, the U.S. [government] is very concerned about stock market interest rates, the dollar and so on. The main way to control all that is to keep the gold price down. So they'd borrow central bank gold and surreptitiously put it in the marketplace, via various leasing and swap operations. It's this gold that has kept the price from being $2,000 - or well over it. Crigger: And the banks, why are they involved? Murphy: Well, it's a very close relationship between Goldman Sachs and the U.S. Treasury. Half the Treasury is staffed by Goldman Sachs people. And the Federal Reserve - J. P. Morgan is the Federal Reserve's bank. They've worked closely together, sharing information, certainly helping in trading. Being able to borrow gold - it's like free money when you lease it in the marketplace, as long as the price stays the same or doesn't go up too much. So they've made money trading this market against the specs, with the government's help, for well over a decade. And they made a lot of money doing it. But now they're running out of central bank gold to meet the heavy demand showing up from everywhere. It's reported that the central banks have 30,000 tons of gold in their vaults. Three of our consultants have shown through different methodologies that they have a good bit less than 15,000 tons, which is less than half of what they say they have. The difference is the gold that's been used over the past decade in the gold price suppression scheme. So it's become a very risky deal. Crigger: How so? Murphy: Think of it simplistically: If gold were to shoot up $250 in the next few weeks, what would everyone talk about? They'd talk about too much inflation, the dollar falling apart; they might talk about a crisis. It would be all negative for the politicians in power, the banks and Wall Street. Gold is a barometer of U.S. financial market health, which is why they try to control it. Crigger: Can you walk me through how such a price manipulation would work? You said banks let out gold "surreptitiously" - how do they do it without attracting notice? Murphy: Basically what happens is J.P. Morgan goes to a central bank and borrows gold, leases it at, say, a 1% interest rate. Then they take the physical gold and they dump it into the marketplace, which adds to the supply. That supply helps to meet demand; without that supply, demand would overpower the dwindling stuff coming out of mines and scrap supply. Gold has gone up nine years in a row. It's way up this year. Now they're in what we call a "managed retreat," because they can only stop the excitement so much, and they're just trying to manage it. They don't want it to get out of control. But it's coming, and it's so strong that they're in deep, deep trouble. Crigger: What evidence is there suggesting price manipulation? Murphy: Well, we have nothing but evidence that we've collected for 10 years. We haven't found anything in 10 years that shows us we were wrong, and we're always looking. A lot of it is on the public record, such as Alan Greenspan saying "Central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price go up." Well, that's what they did. Crigger: Right, but rather than what officials have said or not said, is there any evidence in the market itself that you could point to and say, "That means manipulation?" Murphy: Look at the concentrated position of JPMorgan Chase in the gold and silver markets. Their percentage of the shorts - theirs and HSBC's - are almost the entire short position in the silver market. That's far more of a concentrated position than you see in oil, corn or any other commodity. Nothing else shows anything like it. In fact, J.P. Morgan is short more silver than Nelson Bunker Hunt was long. But they allow that to occur. It's just ridiculous. They're not supposed to be having such concentrated positions. That's one of the mandates of the CFTC [Commodity Futures Trading Commission], to make sure these things don't occur, because that's how manipulations can happen. Crigger: Is the fact that two or three banks have a majority in these short positions necessarily indicative of manipulation? Murphy: They told Nelson Bunker Hunt that his concentrated long position was not to be allowed, and they forced him out. Well, why do they allow J.P. Morgan to do the same thing on the short side? They said that Bunker Hunt manipulated the silver market. We're saying that J.P. Morgan is part of the manipulation of the gold and silver market. This all developed from Robert Rubin to Lawrence Summers, from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration and now Obama - who, by the way, is going through with the same policies. When Geithner as treasury secretary was the head of the Fed [Federal Reserve Bank of New York], he carried out the manipulation of the gold market. The guy who helped originate it, Lawrence Summers, is now the top economic guy for President Obama. It's very entrenched. But the difference is now they're running out of available central bank gold to carry it out. Crigger: How do you know? Murphy: At the GATA African Gold Summit, in May 2001, Frank Veneroso, who is a consultant of ours, delivered a brilliant presentation that said they would run out of gold in 7 to 10 years, based on his work. Well, that's about where we are. In addition, European central banks can sell 9.7 tons of gold per week as part of the Washington Agreement. But they're not even selling 1 ton. So we believe demand is 1,000 to 1,200 times greater than mined and scrap supply. That deficit was being met by the Gold Cartel's surreptitious selling of central bank gold. But now instead of getting 500 tons from the European central banks to help, their supply is drying up. They don't want to sell anymore. Crigger: A few weeks ago, Brad Zigler wrote an article pointing out that banks have lopsided positions in all sorts of commodities contracts, and that large concentrations of short positions by banks are not necessarily an indication of manipulation. Do you want to comment on that? Murphy: I totally disagree with that. As far as I know, there's nothing like it, in the sense of what J.P. Morgan and HSBC have in the silver market specifically. That concentration is far greater than any other position a bank or any other firm has. It's very abnormal to have this size of concentration for the open interest. Crigger: What about platinum and palladium? In those markets, the banks only have short positions, right? Murphy: That's basically what they have in the silver market also. But you're talking many banks, versus just one or two. Now if there were 10, 15, 20 firms with these positions, good for them. But in silver's case, it's just J.P. Morgan and HSBC. Their short position stands out far more than anyone else's. Crigger: Assuming the price of gold has been kept artificially low, how much has the price been altered as a result? You threw out $2,000 earlier - where did that figure come from? Murphy: This is a pretty commonly used number, even in the mainstream world. Had the price kept pace with U.S. inflation, it would be $2,300 per ounce, let's say between $2,000-$2,400 an ounce. Back when we had our Gold Rush 21 Conference [in 2005], the price was $436, and I said it was going to take $3,000-5,000 an ounce price to clear the market. And I think that's the kind of price you're going to see in the years ahead. Once it takes out $1,000, gold's just going to take off like you won't believe. Crigger: But what about manipulation? Won't that keep the price down? Murphy: They'll lose control. That doesn't mean they won't do whatever they can to calm things down again, with whatever gold they have left. But that's the problem: They keep letting loose the gold they have left. Nobody knows how much U.S. gold is left [in the U.S. Gold Reserve]. We're trying to find out through the Freedom of Information Act, and the Fed and Treasury won't tell us. They keep redacting or holding back information. Now if gold's just sitting there, and they've never done anything with it as they say, then what's there to hold back? Crigger: Well, it could just be an issue of bureaucracy. Or stupidity. Murphy: Well, why hold back 400 pages of something where nothing's going on? President Obama has called for transparency in our government. Well, we're asking for transparency. There hasn't been an official, independent audit of our gold reserves since the Eisenhower administration in 1955; can you imagine owning something since 1955 with no audit? Crigger: Certainly, many things about all this appear strange. But just because something looks suspicious doesn't necessarily make it proof that manipulation is going on. Murphy: Well, it's like a jury listening to a murder trial. As you sit there, I could probably come up with 250 things that all fit together. At the end of the trial, you'd say some of it's circumstantial to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. But there's just so much of it. People have said they're going to [manipulate]. Here's an exact quote from the Bank of International Settlements: "There are five main purposes of central bank cooperation, and one of them is the provision of international credits and joint efforts to influence asset prices (especially gold and foreign exchange) in circumstances where this might be thought useful." Or this: the Reserve Bank of Australia said, "foreign currency reserve assets and gold are held primarily to support intervention in the foreign exchange market." This is all on record. I don't even know why there's a debate about this. Crigger: If it's true that the Fed is instrumental in this price manipulation, then how do you reconcile quantitative easing? One of the side effects of that is that gold prices are just going to shoot up, right? Murphy: That's a very good question. Because that's where they're in trouble. They're doing everything they can to keep the price of gold from going sky-high, and they're desperately trying to keep interest rates and Treasury bonds down, and with all this money they're printing, they're petrified. So it's actually making them more aggressive in trying to keep the prices of gold and silver down. But it's such an obvious thing for people to see that demand is exploding all over the world. 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