会计大侠们，你们认为是accounting practice还是commercial accounting更有前「钱」景呢？

萍踪侠影

如题，希望大家给些中肯的意见，本人刚刚考完ca,考虑是否要转到commercial firm中？很犹豫，我的理解是commercial 轻松很多，不用满足每天chargeable hours的要求，但就前景来看，做practice每天学习的东西非常多，每天要和顾客打交道，一路做下去有机会可以做partner,是不是前景好些呢？

lulucai

就现在的前景来看还是firm好，现在公司的财务部都offshore了

艾窝窝

Firm experience always is a plus.

萍踪侠影

lulucai 发表于 2013-4-9 12:26
就现在的前景来看还是firm好，现在公司的财务部都offshore了

Thanks for reply, the ecnomic is not going to get better soon, it does affect the practice firms too!!!

萍踪侠影

艾窝窝 发表于 2013-4-9 12:28
Firm experience alwasy is a plus.

Thanks, but the transition process is not easy as well!

love2010

I feel that firm is better in terms of job security

艾窝窝

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 12:35
Thanks, but the transition process is not easy as well!

Not at all, many roles in the market are preferred to the first mover from frim.

萍踪侠影

艾窝窝 发表于 2013-4-9 12:38
Not at all, many roles in the market are preferred to the first mover from frim.

Really? I am always afraid of applying for commercial firms, as their job requirements are so different from practices, although the basics are the same..

hongcc007

firm经验更好，但commercial有钱啊

KKei

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 12:41
Really? I am always afraid of applying for commercial firms, as their job requirements are so diff ...

COMMERICAL INTERPONSAL能力要强. 整天都"搞来搞去"的事情.各种EXPLAIN,各种DIGGING.

实话实说,COMMERICAL 不见得来的比 PUBLIC PRACTICE 轻松. 如果你是来贪轻松的话,那你选错地了或者你进入的LV比较低.压力比较小.

萍踪侠影

hongcc007 发表于 2013-4-9 12:45
firm经验更好，但commercial有钱啊

Sooooo true!!

萍踪侠影

KKei 发表于 2013-4-9 12:46
COMMERICAL INTERPONSAL能力要强. 整天都"搞来搞去"的事情.各种EXPLAIN,各种DIGGING.

实话实说,COMMERIC ...

I have not made the transition yet, which level or what kind of roles do you recon is suitable for someone just qualified from CA practice firm? Many thanks.

dongdou

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 12:35
Thanks, but the transition process is not easy as well!

It's not as difficult as you think.

dongdou

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 13:01
I have not made the transition yet, which level or what kind of roles do you recon is suitable for ...

Depends on what sort of firm you are currently in and what level you are on.

From what I could gather, your firm might not be a big/mid-tier one?

xiaomt

建议还是先留在practice，无论你什么时候想去commercial，都是有机会的；但如果你想从commercial再回到practice估计就比较难了

萍踪侠影

dongdou 发表于 2013-4-9 13:11
Depends on what sort of firm you are currently in and what level you are on.

From what I could g ...

One of the Top 10 practice, to be honest, I dont really care about the name, it's where you can find the value of yourself and the prospect of your career that counts, right?

KKei

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 13:01
I have not made the transition yet, which level or what kind of roles do you recon is suitable for ...

你对什么方面更有信心或者更有兴趣就APPLY咯.

很多时候不是你想做什么,是有什么让你做.

先尝试APPLY先吧.

dongdou

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 13:43
One of the Top 10 practice, to be honest, I dont really care about the name, it's where you can fi ...

My bad and my apologies.

You should be able to find out what sort of positions you could apply from your ex-colleagues who made the move.

晓风残星

Man im on the same boat as well...

Not sure whether I should stay in chartered firms or to explore the commercial world~

f18

我去年刚刚跳出来，感觉如果你的firm是四大，那么相对容易跳出来，如果是一般firm，也需要一些时间。我目前做管理会计，感觉很有意思，所以，在firm里你要确定出来以后，你对哪一块感兴趣?

dongdou

萍踪侠影 发表于 2013-4-9 13:43
One of the Top 10 practice, to be honest, I dont really care about the name, it's where you can fi ...

到家了 可以发中文了....按照楼主firm的规模,应该有不少跳去commercial的先例 CA考完或者刚刚qualify就跳的应该也不在少数吧?他们都跳什么样的职位呢?
楼主为什么不想在现在的firm呆了呢?

dongdou

KKei 发表于 2013-4-9 15:38
你对什么方面更有信心或者更有兴趣就APPLY咯.

很多时候不是你想做什么,是有什么让你做.

不是先大概确定个方向才有的放矢么?

sony

我觉得firm和commercial差别还是挺大的。firm跳commercial也不容易。我的manager整天就说他听到过的100个最stupid的questions就是EY的人来问的。firm的人没有接触过transaction level的东西，所以很多东西都要重头学。当然commercial 跳firm也几乎不可能。我在commercial也学到很多东西，工作不轻松，工资不高。我觉得这两个就是不同的路，做的好都有前途，没有哪个是捷径，没有工作轻松又工资高的。

黑芝麻狐儿

偶的原则是，男孩子应该去firm闯荡，节奏快，压力大；女孩子（尤其是嫁人的）更适合commercial，工作轻松节奏慢一些，更方便照顾家庭。

bluesky999

在FIRM里通常不担心失业。

晓风残星

我在firm 怎么感觉firm 里面turn over 超慢， 平均一个多两个月才finish 一个group。
基本上每个family group都是大概的structure, SMSF, Family Trust, Coy and bunch of individuals.

大家都说firm要刚deadline，就may的deadline 7点下班做大概一周～ 其他时候都是五点过一点点 准时下班～可是我怎么觉得firm有点无聊～～～～ 难道去了commercial会更加无聊吗？

firm 真的比commercial 要稳定吗？

bigfour

先作firm打好基础，辛苦几年，女的可以转去commercial轻松点，男的继续努力养家

isaisa

在Firm 工作了几年正想跳到commercial 感觉好难。不知道大家有什么建议

萍踪侠影

Thanks for everyone's reply, Im a bit busy lately, but I will keep myself updated!!! And hope everyone well in your accounting career, no matter it's firm or commercial!! If you are someone you will be someone anywhere!

poorjacky

我在4大的朋友说firm跳出来的很多都是在里面混不下去才出来的（就是升到senior,或者manager然后被明示暗示要他们滚蛋）。也有一下是直接跳到他们client的公司去干个finance manager什么的。当然这些都是在firm里面混了5-8年的人。楼主如果现在的工作不太恶心就先再干干看吧，也不着急跳出来，说真在commercial firm里面到了senior FA这一级以后工作量也挺大的。每天干到8-9点也是很平常。