discuss change job or not?

孤星

hi everyone how are u?

i have a big problem. i wish everyone can give me good idea?

now i am working in the fruit shop for 3 years. hard job, but good money. ok  i tell in detail. 5 day a week from 6 am to 6:30 pm.$1000 after all tax and 4 weeks holiday with pay.

i am thinking to change job since it is labour job and i can not work like that in my life. also i get the degree of master of accouting. then i want to find the accounting job. but the money i got now is very good and the accounting job is hard to find and the money maybe only 30k after tax.

i am so confused now.can u give me idea on this matter. thanks]

[ 本帖最后由 孤星 于 2007-7-31 18:52 编辑 ]

astina

这个pay好,可是是12小时的超长时间工作换来的

要不把这个工作做下去,但是part-time,每周3天什么的,同时找会计工作

黑黑

fulltime accounting, parttime fruitshop.

goldenapple

行行出状元。。。

Portal

建议不要太看重眼前的得失，所谓不破不立，还是找到喜欢的工作，薪水总会上去的

astina

原帖由 Portal 于 2007-7-31 11:59 发表
建议不要太看重眼前的得失，所谓不破不立，还是找到喜欢的工作，薪水总会上去的

同意,而且每天12小时的工作,又能坚持多少年?

zn7726

同意楼上三位朋友的意见.

starcraft

其实LZ想过自己开店没有呢？

goldenapple

原帖由 starcraft 于 2007-7-31 12:07 发表
其实LZ想过自己开店没有呢？

黑山老妖

Change job or ope your own shop.
$1000 a week is not that great considering the hours and potential pay you will get by changing job.

孤星

thanks but i do not want to open shop. many chinese boss work very hard maybe 7 day and they not make much money.pay tent pay wage.... at the end hard job less money and bad mood.....

孤星

thanks i think u are very right. but i face other problem. 3 years in fruit shop. lose too much knowledge in accouting, no accounting experience, only deree........how long it take me to find the good job?

edina

working hours are too long to get $1000 after tax. If I were you, I will try to get an accounting job since you've already got a degree. you will get this pay eventually in accounting I believe, with less working hous.

月亮

这个工作现在1000，5年之后还是1000，没有发展前途，还是要找专业工作

ASTRA

我觉得楼主要想好了再动手.

$1000/周税后相当的好了, 有几个专业工作说税后过1000的?

一天工作 12 小时确实不易, 但比起一般LABOR工好很多.别这样轻易放弃了.毕竟人离了钱寸步难行.况且专业工作就一定能顺利找到?

我倒建议楼主如果年轻先积累资金,然后买生意,倒是一个不错的路.

当然我看楼主意在找专业工作也可以理解, 反正自己想好了.

zn7726

税后1000/week, 如果再有super拿, 相当于几乎70K年薪了, 呵呵.

"also i get the degree of master of accouting" LZ是拿了master还是在打算拿?

大家都是 毕业->打工->专业工作 过来的, LZ不要考虑太多失去这个工作的得失, 全当成你在"打工"这个阶段比别的同学更幸运就是了. 最好是part time做fruit shop, 两边都不耽误. 当然, 如果LZ有很大的生活压力另说

典

辞职的时候记得上来说一声,让其他同子代替

bffbffbff

原帖由 ASTRA 于 2007-7-31 12:28 发表
我觉得楼主要想好了再动手.

$1000/周税后相当的好了, 有几个专业工作说税后过1000的?

一天工作 12 小时确实不易, 但比起一般LABOR工好很多.别这样轻易放弃了.毕竟人离了钱寸步难行.况且专业工作就一定能顺利 ...

I had silimar situation before.. over 900/week cash in hand without too hard work, but that's not a lifetime job coz I get that amount of money at the cost of my personal time/life,  even if it is better paid temporarily....

it's been a year now since I got skill-related job, even the pay isn't good enough still, but the rate keeps rising few times in a year and figure is approaching what i got as a labor...

I do enjoy the tremendous changes my current job brings... easier and heathier personal life, and sense of achievement in career.

:si37

GPS

1000 after tax < 1400 taxable
/ (12 hours*5days) = 23.33/hr

* 8 hours*5days *52 = 48533.33/year

( 4 weeks annual leave included, no sick leave, no superannuation)

Deduct super (9%),
48533.33*(1-0.09) =44165.33/year

Deduct sick leave, 1 week / year  min

44165.33 * 51/52= 43316/year

This is the maximum you can get from that shop in about 20 years.

If you can find a professional job with 44K, you win immediately.

If you can find a professional job with less than 44K, you win in less 3 years, assuming any professional job with 3 years' experiences worths 44K+super.

The key point here is to look at the hourly rate. If you want to get a bigger absolute money, find a job with O/T pay or find a second job.

O/T option:

Assume you have a professional job with 44K+super, you want to get 1000/week without super or sick leave.
44K+super = 23.33/hr without superor sick
23.33*5*8=933.2/w
(1000 - 933.2)/ 23.33 = 3 hrs/week

so, work 5*8 week, plus 3 hrs/week.

2nd part-time job option.
Assume you have a professional job with 44K+super, you want to get 1000/week without super or sick leave.
Assume you wash dishes in chinese resturant, 10/hr
(1000-933.2)/10=8 hrs/week
so every day, u work 8 hours in office and wash dishes for 1 hour.

Finally, give you a professional writing:
Please feel free to contact us if you have any further query.

hehehe. good luck.

[ 本帖最后由 GPS 于 2007-7-31 13:06 编辑 ]

qqyang

我在想，LZ怎么解释读完书到找到工作这段时间的空档呢？难道真的说水果店？如果LZ在国内也没有任何会计相关工作经验，那完全这样说的。aussie上学的时候也是啥都会做。

LZ如果经济上紧，可以周末打两天labour帮补一下。如果不紧，多少还是休息两天......GOOD LUCK!

zn7726

LS的LS的帐算的对吗???

税前44K+Super的收入, 每周能有900(每月3600+)税后入账 ?

我记得60K+super的收入, 才有每周900吧

[ 本帖最后由 zn7726 于 2007-7-31 13:03 编辑 ]

qqyang

原帖由 GPS 于 2007-7-31 12:55 发表
1000 after tax < 1400 taxable
/ (12 hours*5days) = 23.33/hr

* 8 hours*5days *52 = 48533.33/year

( 4 weeks annual leave included, no sick leave, no superannuation)

Deduct super (9%),  ...

LZ除非之前有相关经验，或者学习成绩和英语出类拔萃，否则，拿不到44K+super的专业工。现在的世道，35K+super已经不错，28K+super是average。所以，现在澳洲小孩，没有24岁是不可能离家的。

孤星

hi: thanks a lot for u good idea

i am writing to make something clear. and i promise what i said is true here.

*after i fininshed study i start to work in fruit shop till now(nearly 3 year)
*after tax $1000 in hand
*i got sup 6-7%
*if i sick i get pay no sick no pay
*1 month holiday per year
*no working experience in accounting
*english all right
*i already got the master degree of accounting

qqyang

还需要你的financial position，还有你家庭的financial position，i.e有没有老婆孩子，就你一个人工作？

有没有TZ能够指导一下LZ，怎么去解释3年的gap？这个在resume里面太明显，肯定要给问到。

如果家庭经济状况许可，还是valuable去投资一下未来的，毕竟从assistant accountant做起的话，10年内还是有可能拿到100K+super的，但是labour就freeze了。

紫霞

it's hard to get 44k+ accounting job with out experience.

Own a business is good choice.

LZ needs to think about if he/she really wants a accounting job. From my point of view, accounting job is not easy too. they still do overtime sometimes.

ASTRA

楼上的计算有错.

1000/周, 税后, 1000*52=52000/ 年 税后,败涂地大约相当于70000/年报税前.

以楼主的年龄和资历, 即便找到工作, 2-3年内也就是40000-45000/年,税前.大约30000-42000/年税后

我想剩下的大家都可以算出来了.

baolqun

原帖由 qqyang 于 2007-7-31 13:00 发表


LZ除非之前有相关经验，或者学习成绩和英语出类拔萃，否则，拿不到44K+super的专业工。现在的世道，35K+super已经不错，28K+super是average。所以，现在澳洲小孩，没有24岁是不可能离家的。

r u sure that is average for junior accounting roles?
seems too low...

baolqun

原帖由 ASTRA 于 2007-7-31 13:39 发表
楼上的计算有错.

1000/周, 税后, 1000*52=52000/ 年 税后,败涂地大约相当于70000/年报税前.

以楼主的年龄和资历, 即便找到工作, 2-3年内也就是40000-45000/年,税前.大约30000-42000/年税后

我想剩下的大 ...

you did not compare with the hourly rate...
I d ratter work less time and get less...

astina

原帖由 baolqun 于 2007-7-31 13:41 发表


r u sure that is average for junior accounting roles?
seems too low...

我也感觉低了点.decent 点的公司,一个新手进去,感觉应该在40k左右+super

astina

原帖由 ASTRA 于 2007-7-31 13:39 发表
楼上的计算有错.

1000/周, 税后, 1000*52=52000/ 年 税后,败涂地大约相当于70000/年报税前.

以楼主的年龄和资历, 即便找到工作, 2-3年内也就是40000-45000/年,税前.大约30000-42000/年税后

我想剩下的大 ...

所以还要取决于LZ对自己life style以及将来预期的把握