拿到一个没做ref chk的offer....

无视

Just got an offer without ref check this afternoon, also lost an job because of ref check few weeks back.

Lots of wired things happened to me in this round job hunting.

liushui0729

without ref check, is that a small business?

无视

liushui0729 发表于 2012-12-12 16:37
without ref check, is that a small business?

It's global org, the reason they rushed because I have to decide whether to accept another pending offer by the end of business today.

They are well aware of my current dilemma and trying to make difference.

When I raise ref check issue to my job recruiter, the feedback was they don't need to, they can tell through 3 rounds interviews. I believe they referred to my technical capacity.

They don't care about HR issue, I guess

Share88

无视 发表于 2012-12-12 16:47
It's global org, the reason they rushed because I have to decide whether to accept another pending ...

Congratulations!

无视

Share88 发表于 2012-12-12 16:50
Congratulations!

thx!!

banzhiyan

恭喜lz

liushui0729

jenny06

ｇｘｇｘ　!

vale

years ago, got offer from a giant company without interview, it was surprising..

hetty1006

Can you tell more about why lost an offer because of ref?
What kind of ref did you get?

cani123456

hetty1006 发表于 2012-12-12 20:07
Can you tell more about why lost an offer because of ref?
What kind of ref did you get?

Same query here! Does lz hv an ugly ex-boss who bad mouth you?

YC_SUSAN

gongxi gongxi!

You are very experienced with job hunting.

内核

That's normal. My current employer did not do any ref check but they took a background check.

xwang5

Ref check is not a universal standard, depending on company's policy instead of their size. some companies have loose loose HR standard and would like to take leap of faith to take a candidate on board with no appropriate background check

双喜临门

大家英文都好棒啊~ 呜呜...

MU

双喜能进citi英文能差的了？

nicolemeng

Congratulations

无视

hetty1006 发表于 2012-12-12 20:07
Can you tell more about why lost an offer because of ref?
What kind of ref did you get?

在公司不能输入中文，用英文写帖子也是迫不得已，倒不是因为什么英语好, 多理解吧...

那个工作本来不太符合我的级别，但公司不错，想拿他当备胎，2面都很顺利，轮到之后的ref check, 碰到一个很SB的recruiter, 非要指明联系我上一个工作的直接领导，一个印度人，我跟他关系一般，从以往听他给别人做reference的经历来看，他不会说好话，也不会很刻意的说出格的话，但绝对不是一个很好的referee. 所以我很果断的拒绝了recruiter的请求，给了其他人的电话，但这个SB在这个问题上很纠缠不休，给我打了不下N个电话，我当时很难理解她的意图，毕竟bad ref check导致offer丢了，她自己也拿不到commission, 但还有其他candidate她可以用，这个职位是她独家代理的。

我后来猜测是她可能用这种方式来影响我在其他公司面世的状态，因为她知道我在另外一个公司3面的时间（通过其他recruiter)，就在这个时间之前2小时很疯狂的骚扰，我发挥不好，对她自己送过去的候选人有利。

结果是让她的client对我造成与前领导不合的印象，拒发offer. 被她影响面世的那个公司IT manager也跟我不对眼，failed.

这SB一番努力直接导致我丢掉十拿九稳的offer(虽然级别不太符合，但总归是个备胎，比没有强）, 间接导致我丢掉一个潜在的offer(3面了都，就是聊天的，听说现在也还没招到人），打电话过来说公司不准备给offer的时候，我直接挂她电话，还好忍住骂她鼻翅,phuck off的冲动。

这轮找工的经历让我感觉cruiter权利还是很大，不光是这个SB拆台，其他中介也会用自己的权利mark around, 但也有很有经验的中介给极大帮助，但前提是employer喜欢你。刚那到的这个offer和上一个工作都是同一个人介绍的，很强悍的卖人经验，同样的offer，我会take他的。

Jtmart

GXGX

cherrieshowshow

楼主很强.
我目前的工作是已经拿到offer 然后再作的ref check.一家global company.所以我觉得具体情况具体分析

allenoz

说来也奇怪，毕业到现在4份工作。两个大公司，两个小公司，还没有做过一次ref check

无视

cherrieshowshow 发表于 2012-12-12 22:44
楼主很强.
我目前的工作是已经拿到offer 然后再作的ref check.一家global company.所以我觉得具体情况具体 ...

congrats!!!

你这是正常流程.

无视

allenoz 发表于 2012-12-12 22:57
说来也奇怪，毕业到现在4份工作。两个大公司，两个小公司，还没有做过一次ref check ...

只能说你特别lucky!!

哞哞

恭喜恭喜

无视

内核 发表于 2012-12-12 20:19
That's normal. My current employer did not do any ref check but they took a background check.

什么级别的background check？有大公司跟专业公司联手搞，很恐怖，祖宗八代都能翻出来。

内核

无视 发表于 2012-12-12 23:05
什么级别的background check？有大公司跟专业公司联手搞，很恐怖，祖宗八代都能翻出来。 ...

不知道是啥级别，就是美国总部那边雇了一个当地的专业公司做这个，到澳洲的各级法院查犯罪纪录，到以前的各个雇主那里确认雇佣经历，还给中国的清华认证确认本科学士学历

saken

内核 发表于 2012-12-13 08:41
不知道是啥级别，就是美国总部那边雇了一个当地的专业公司做这个，到澳洲的各级法院查犯罪纪录，到以前的 ...

感觉你公司好像不信任员工。

内核

saken 发表于 2012-12-13 08:54
感觉你公司好像不信任员工。

据说美帝那边很早以前（911后？）就开始了

无视

内核 发表于 2012-12-13 08:41
不知道是啥级别，就是美国总部那边雇了一个当地的专业公司做这个，到澳洲的各级法院查犯罪纪录，到以前的 ...

It explains.

I won't say it's common in States, but some of them are crazy, especially some global giants.

内核

无视 发表于 2012-12-13 10:20
It explains.

I won't say it's common in States, but some of them are crazy, especially some globa ...

我这个公司不是giant，小公司，6、70号人，勉强挣点钱而已。估计是随大流吧