请问各位，我股票赔了钱，能得到什么优惠吗？

trown

听说退税的时候可以申报？请懂的帮忙解答一下吧， 谢谢了。

ericcheung17

这也行 等大师

饲养员

赚的时候再冲抵

trown

具体该怎么申报呢？

pandababy

ato会作亏本买卖吗，好好炒出一套房

kieren

按business申报loss, 可以在当年抵扣收入. 否则按照capital loss申报则可以在今后抵消capital gain的税项

trown

kieren 发表于 2012-11-1 22:45
按business申报loss, 可以在当年抵扣收入. 否则按照capital loss申报则可以在今后抵消capital gain的税项 ...

那这么说个人是没戏了。

kieren

trown 发表于 2012-11-1 22:46
那这么说个人是没戏了。

个人也是可以的, 不是一定要有ABN才算business. 这是去年退税的时候我的会计师告诉我的, 因此帮我退了几十块钱又被他收佣金收回去了

Mintlolly

同意6楼的。
这取决于你是share trader 还是 share holder

去www.ato.gov.au 查 carrying on a business of share trading。最后一页有给出什么情况下可以算business,什么情况下算投资失利，将来抵税

kieren

Mintlolly 发表于 2012-11-1 23:03
同意6楼的。
这取决于你是share trader 还是 share holder

看来这个是专业选手，赶快跑

fengcoolzi

6楼正解啊

cycwong21

If you bought shares and sold shares a lot within a year frequently, you could treat it as share trading. The losses would be treated as ordinary losses which offset your other ordinary income, reduced your taxable income.

If you bought shares and kept more than one year, then sold them out. It would be capital losses which had to be carried forward to future year to offset furture capital gains.

If you only bought few shares and sold within a year with big losses, it would be still  treated as capital losses.

momoying

好复杂。。。

minialau

不要放，等它涨回去。

pqcurtin

学习了，谢谢分享

菜刀v小姐

cycwong21 发表于 2012-11-2 23:20
If you bought shares and sold shares a lot within a year frequently, you could treat it as share tra ...

If you bought shares and sold shares a lot within a year frequently, you could treat it as share trading. The losses would be treated as ordinary losses which offset your other ordinary income, reduced your taxable income.

If you bought shares and kept more than one year, then sold them out. It would be capital losses which had to be carried forward to future year to offset furture capital gains.

If you only bought few shares and sold within a year with big losses, it would be still  treated as capital losses.



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JohnnySu

kieren 发表于 2012-11-1 21:45
按business申报loss, 可以在当年抵扣收入. 否则按照capital loss申报则可以在今后抵消capital gain的税项 ...

Business Loss 在符合一定的条件(non-commercial loss prov .)下才可以相抵其他收入

JohnnySu

momoying 发表于 2012-11-3 09:15
好复杂。。。

不复杂 capital losses 只能与 capital gains 相抵 个人来说最常见一般能算capital的有股票 基金 房产 等

PNG

最直接的优惠是你以后如果有dividend income 的话，你可以offset你现在的share loss. 但是不可以offset other ordinary income.

JohnnySu

PNG 发表于 2012-11-6 11:02
最直接的优惠是你以后如果有dividend income 的话，你可以offset你现在的share loss. 但是不可以offset oth ...

Dividend is revenue income. It can not be offset against Capital Losses.

Sunman

capital loss就好。大家讲business太复杂，一般share trader都知道怎么退税的。lz这种属于偶尔交易，报capital loss就好。简单，保税的时候填个loss多少钱就ok了。1分钟不到。必须卖出才叫loss啊，hold着的loss不算loss，以为可能涨回去，没settle。

lhz26

JohnnySu 发表于 2012-11-6 20:10
Dividend is revenue income. It can not be offset against Capital Losses.

如果是trader可否用股息抵扣trading loss呢？谢谢！

JohnnySu

lhz26 发表于 2018-10-15 13:38
如果是trader可否用股息抵扣trading loss呢？谢谢！

可以的，但不是那么容易能被定义为 Share trading business

lhz26

JohnnySu 发表于 2018-10-15 19:43
可以的，但不是那么容易能被定义为 Share trading business

再请教一个问题，share trader（有ABN）能否将买卖股票brokerage的GST部分退回来？谢谢！