买哪个微单好?

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求足迹高手给点建议, 预算1千澳币以下, 主要照生活照.

看了好多, J1怎样?

一些帖子说3,4百买个机身再配个3,4百的镜头照人像效果也不错.

请高手们帮帮忙了. 谢谢.

能随便推荐个靠得住又便宜的网站就最好了. 谢谢

cxjzhj

一千澳币以下Sony nex5n性价比很高，毕竟是用在Nikon D7000上的apsc大底，比J1的底估计大将近两倍，成像优势是不可忽略的。

lwzdew

微单当然是NEX5N了，新品刚出，旧的就打折，性价比很高
我刚USD 439入了套机

cxjzhj

一千澳币以下Sony nex5n性价比很高，毕竟是用在Nikon D7000上的apsc大底，比J1的底估计大将近两倍，成像优势是不可忽略的。

antique

若等得了的话, 年底前,你可买到 fuji XPRO1 or Sony Nex 7 @ <1k.

cxjzhj

antique 发表于 2012-10-7 11:15
若等得了的话, 年底前,你可买到 fuji XPRO1 or Sony Nex 7 @

你说的是二手的吧，如果新的x-pro1小于一千的话，那叫xe1怎么铺货啊。

cxjzhj

感觉富士年底前会减产x-pro1,把重点放在xe1上，这样估计x-pro1的价格稳定在1100至1300之间，x100在900至1100之间，xe1在800至1000之间。

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昨天DickSmith看到N5好像700不到一套, 2个镜头, 这价格可以吗? 我应该这个月内就要买了.

cxjzhj

咕咕噜噜 发表于 2012-10-7 11:40
昨天DickSmith看到N5好像700不到一套, 2个镜头, 这价格可以吗? 我应该这个月内就要买了. ...

如果确定是5ｎ而不是5，而且含16mm和18-55mm头的话，价格不到700又是澳大利亚行货挺不错了。

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cxjzhj 发表于 2012-10-7 11:50
如果确定是5ｎ而不是5，而且含16mm和18-55mm头的话，价格不到700又是澳大利亚行货挺不错了。 ...

哦, 看错了, 要796呢. 是SONY NEX5NDB . 应该是16mm和1855mm镜头吧. dicksmith网上sony就这一个微单. 为什么我不能发连接呢?

cxjzhj

咕咕噜噜 发表于 2012-10-7 12:01
哦, 看错了, 要796呢. 是SONY NEX5NDB . 应该是16mm和1855mm镜头吧. dicksmith网上sony就这一个微单. 为 ...

如果你在墨尔本的话去CITY的CAMERA HOUSE去讲讲价试试.

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GF3怎样? 买那个14mm+1442mm双镜套, 才600在HN.

antique

咕咕噜噜 发表于 2012-10-7 12:17
GF3怎样? 买那个14mm+1442mm双镜套, 才600在HN.

if you want a quality 4/3, only 2 supliers; one is Fuji, the other is Sony. No 3rd available currently.

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antique 发表于 2012-10-7 14:14
if you want a quality 4/3, only 2 supliers; one is Fuji, the other is Sony. No 3rd available curre ...

啥么是4/3? 画幅吗? 5N还不是全副吧, 听说新出的5R回是全副. 多谢指教.

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antique 发表于 2012-10-7 14:14
if you want a quality 4/3, only 2 supliers; one is Fuji, the other is Sony. No 3rd available curre ...

还有刚刚在网上看5N的review, 说它的在拍video的时候会有"塔塔,塔塔"的声音. 是真的吗?

cxjzhj

antique 发表于 2012-10-7 14:14
if you want a quality 4/3, only 2 supliers; one is Fuji, the other is Sony. No 3rd available curre ...

Fuji和sony有m4/3?第一次听说。

eguan88

OMD + Voigtlander 25/0.95

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eguan88 发表于 2012-10-7 14:49
OMD + Voigtlander 25/0.95

这个超预算了

antique

cxjzhj 发表于 2012-10-7 14:48
Fuji和sony有m4/3?第一次听说。

澄清一下, 是4/3的变种. 都属Mirrorless. 在我看来没区别, 都是来玩转接的.

cxjzhj

antique 发表于 2012-10-7 17:08
澄清一下, 是4/3的变种. 都属Mirrorless. 在我看来没区别, 都是来玩转接的.

Leica M9和M8理应也是M4/3的变种，Mirrorless啊

hkfroggy

if < $1000 camera + lens. then Sony-5n ....
from a Nikon J1 user + Nikon fans.  

antique

cxjzhj 发表于 2012-10-7 21:43
Leica M9和M8理应也是M4/3的变种，Mirrorless啊

所言极是. 只是没财烧.

OAKHILL

hkfroggy 发表于 2012-10-7 22:01
if < $1000 camera + lens. then Sony-5n ....
from a Nikon J1 user + Nikon fans.

J1 not good than Sony?
Reason pls

hkfroggy

OAKHILL 发表于 2012-10-8 06:01
J1 not good than Sony?
Reason pls

First, also consider Olympus OMD, if size, look and $ not a problem.

If you just compare picture quality (J1 and J2 basically the same)
(http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon-J1-vs-Sony-NEX-5N)

* dynamic range  (Sony 12.7 EV vs J1 11 EV)
* color depth (23.6b vs 21.5b)
* low noise at high ISO (Sony 1079 ISO vs 372 ISO)

Nex-5n beats Nikon J1 in all three areas.

For portrait,
Sony has much larger sensor (Sony 23.4x15.6mm vs Nikon 13.2x8.8mm), it can generate much shallow DoF.
Sony crops is 1.6x and Nikon is 2.7x, Most DSLR lens are useless in Nikon J1. A Nikon 35mm f1.8 DX became 94.5mm.
Sony got much better manual mode for manual lens, much easier if you want to use a manual Lecia lens (and other m43 lens)
Nikon 1 need to use 30-110mm to get shallow DoF, or manual lens.

For Landscape,
It isn't that bad, as you want everything sharp anyway, and Nikon is good at that.
Sony has panorama, which is great if you want it.

For holiday photo and family photo, you want something light and fast, which is where Nikon J1 is good at.
1) fast startup, less shutter lag
2) fast and accurate focus (phase detection), (many focus points), face detect, object detect ...
3) slow motion 400fps and 1200fps : http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=485294
4) smaller and cheaper than Nex-5,
5) build in flash
6) build for beginner, it has a fully automatic feature, the camera will do everything for you.

If is a better holiday photo camera from my point of view, it is better quality than DC, but not too much bigger.
It sits well in the $500 price with twin lens.



Overall, I will still buy a Sony Nex-5n. Trust me, my J1 has done 10,000+ photos now, I know what I am talking about



My J1 sample: (most have post-process, except first one)
* close up test : http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=485294 (10-30mm)
* Flower : http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=558357 (use adapter with a Pentax 25mm  f1.4)
* 馬尾草 http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=495270 (10-30mm)
* Night photo : http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=502292 (10-30mm)
* Landscape : http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=532763 (30-110mm)
* Portrait : http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=545313
* 旋轉木馬: http://www.oursteps.com.au/bbs/f ... read&tid=510781 (10-30mm)

10-30mm




30-110mm



25mm f1.4 manual mode

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hkfroggy 发表于 2012-10-8 08:07
First, also consider Olympus OMD, if size, look and $ not a problem.

If you just compare picture ...

这个不顶不行啊!!! 详尽的分析，低端买家福音。十分感谢。

nicky100

建议上oly 的EPL5吧，用的和OMD一样的SONY SENSOR，这个的好不用多说了，另外M43的镜头可选的面很广，从牛逼的饼干头，很定光圈变焦都有，这个NEX再给它2年都做不到。另外价格还便宜很多。

yaol

非专业用户无须在意大底小底 这东西和拍摄乐趣和照片质量没关系 至少你/我拍不出差别

要给自己吃定心丸 可以看看拍得好的 比如用小底的 看无忌的桃木 http://forum.xitek.com/thread-381343-1-1-1.html 这里面到处都是好看的照片

有可能在澳洲卖二手的话 我觉得sony的nex能好些 至少你放在这里 价格合适肯定有人买 如果是o记或者松下的43底 可能困难点 拿回国卖就不必担心了 什么都能跟蜂鸟上卖出去

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先谢谢各位这两天的回复,

我在这最后一问! 这个星期就买! 考虑太多也没啥意思了.

1. Panasonic GX1 + 20mm/f1.7
2.                   GX1+ 25mm/f1.4 Leica
3. Sony NEX-5N 16mm+1855mm 双镜套

价钱都差不多, 2贵一百多点, 你们会买哪套? 谢谢了

ancient_fan

gx1  + 14 mm f2.5 +45 mm f1.8.

20mm 不够广。25mm 不够长

doristt

lwzdew 发表于 2012-10-7 12:08
微单当然是NEX5N了，新品刚出，旧的就打折，性价比很高
我刚USD 439入了套机 ...

可以贡献个购买链接吗
非常感谢