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发表于 2012-6-27 17:02 |显示全部楼层
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看了以后好爽啊,去找原文找不到?大家有看过的吗?

Title: from blizzard chinese forum.
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first, this is an emotional post, no technical content here. but for a pay2win game like D3, there's no technique worth discussion at all, IMO.

this is post is mainly abusing and complaining. if you are a blizz fanboy insisting that whatever trash game blizz made, you will still support them, just like supporting your favorite stars, even if they behavior as animals, then you'd better not read this post which will make you upset and angry.

for those who will say "if you don't like this game, just go away.", i'd like to reply, i bought this game, i decide how to enjoy this game. slain by monsters everyday is not fun for me, so i'm currently enjoying this game by abusing and complaining about it.

i have played this game for 2 months. struggled to bring my 2 chars to lv60. as blizzard said, the game begins from here. all skills and difficulty levels are unlocked. after experienced inferno, i found that i am the monster in this game. those monsters are the players who paid for this game. i think they must be having fun. they maybe smiling when they saw me logged in. when i was killed, i always imagine that 3 elites are sitting on the ground and smoking. one said to another "do you think that S** OF B**** will come again? he has died hundreds of time but still keep coming. he's really a B****. i'm bored killing him.". another elite will say"you know, he's a super B****". the last elite will say"you guys just sit here, have a break. i will show you how i one shoot the S** of B****". then a heavy armored barb showed up, still out of breath. but before he can do any attack he become a small cross on the ground again. F***, i say. and feel vacuous.

difficulty?
i'm curious what's your definition of difficulty, blizz! are you seriously thinking that increase monsters' hp and increase monsters' damage is the way to increase difficulty? blizz made a blue post saying that if you died a lot, it means you are undergeared. i'd want to reply:"F**** your M*****", seriously. if godly geared, even my 8-months-old daughter can clear this game by spamming left click. you call this difficulty? or your difficulty is only to those who don't have OR don't want to use money on RMAH? the design of the drop rate is ridiculous. what you can get in ACT1 can't help you clear ACT1 which means even you farm 100 years you can't clear inferno if you don't use AH. I've already paid for my game, why should i pay more on AH to enjoy this game? if you don't want to use money on RMAH, sorry, the gate of inferno is closed to you. but, is inferno that important? you will see the same contents which you have seen hundreds times! nothing new in inferno. the story is the same! the dialogs are the same! the only new stuff is the high ilvl items. but, even if you can faceroll inferno, what will happen? smash and revenge the elites that once laught at you? but i wanna shout to ask, is this fun? this fun? fun?

why powerlevel is not legit?
i want to ask you narcissism devs, are you really so cofident that believe players would be glad to watch the stories, cinimatic hundreds times, like drunk?? you think your story is a B.I.B.L.E? i'd like to power level my character to lv60 by killing monsters, why couldn't i? why you nerf EXP when repeat a quest? because your garbage server can't afford people create games repeatedly? some people like to walk into every corner on the map, but others would like to level efficiently. that's players freedom. you can't tell players how to play. suppose i bought a wash machine, i'd like to put rice in it, and i think it's cool, why can't i? even some people may think i'm an idiot, but i still can do it, am i? you can't lock my wash machine remotely when i do this! it's none of your bussiness! i bought the wash machine, i decide how to use it! that's called liberty, you americans understand liberty better than i do, don't ask me to teach you what the liberty is! if you really understand what players need, you should provide some place for power level. even make an achievment called power level. this will be fun for some people. tortured by monsters until pee-poo out of control is not fun!

why increase repair bill?
It doesn't make any sense. if i can't beat a monster, why can't i simple choose die? now you are punishing people for dying. can't you be more reasonable? be reasonable will not make you P.R.E.G.N.A.N.T! you said, you don't want players zerg. another "you don't want", eh? i'm undergeared, i don't want to use real money, i'd like zerg, why does it matter? i'm proud of myself if i can clear the act by zerging! why can't i? the only way left to me is the RMAH. I would advise you opening a supermarket rather than a game company.

why servers are so crap?
i totally can't understand. i'm IT related. when the development of a system is done, the number of simultaneous links of the system is the most important statics we will check out. you should have done it, aren't you? if your servers are not capable of the number, why you still selling you copies? you still sell the game even when you know that some of the players can't login or having lantency issues. can i think this is cheating? some will say, there are so many chinese farmers here that make the game laggy. F*** u. there's nothing to do with it. if your server are capable of the number of people who bought your game, you should not have any lag issues.

LAST, i want to say:
i don't know whether you have a DAYE, blizz. but whether you have or not, i'd say F*** your DAYE. do you know DAYE? let me explain you, DAYE is your father's brother, yes, you american call him uncle. so, F*** your uncle. you maybe confused why F*** uncle as there are mother, sisters there. let me teach you again, and remeber it: it's called LIBERTY! in your blues, "we don't want" this, "we don't want" that. don't want players farm pots/vases, don't want players farm bosses repeatedly, don't want players power level, but do you know, 1000 people will have 1000 ways to have fun. there's a chinese saying: your cuisine may others poison. i like farm pot, even only 1 gold drops from a pot, i will still farm it anyway for nothing just to hear the crisp sound. this is a superb playing style that you can't understand. you made us unable to afford dying, then nerfed gold farming spot. i'd ask what do you want to do? are you guys just want to torture players for fun? just like the Development And Reform Committee in our country who will say "wow, these days are so peaceful, let's markup the gasolin price!". you guys say"wow, lets see how will these S** of B**** be if we nerf both weapons damage and monsters HP to its half!", "add rage timer see whether these S*** of B**** can handle it or not!" the other day.

Blizz, do you know why D3 can sell so good? that's for the sake of D2, that's for the sake of millions people like the Diablo franchise, that's for the sake of we 30's memories. if this game is not released by the name Diablo, it will be nothing than a S***. just like those popup ads on web sites, a semi-n.a.k.e.d loli saying "hi, click me, i will become a monster. register now, you will get 1billion gold!! yes, 1 billion gold, not 1 billion S***M".

Edit: censored dirty words.
To those who quoted the early version. Plz delete the quote or re-qoute. Ty for your cooperation.

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发表于 2012-6-28 10:53 |显示全部楼层
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深有同感啊, 估计再玩一段时间就回wow了

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这中国哥们写的.. 太乐了..这可是积累了30年的怨念啊 都爆发出来了.

换一款日式RPG就没这么多牢骚了. 能一遍又一遍打的,肯定不是RPG. 故事都一样,无非就是些隐藏剧情神马.
如如不动,是动中求静,如如不静,是静中求动,不可求大,不可求小,折中可生

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http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/forum/topic/1012291488

周興  寫給做出暗黑三這種遊戲的暴雪

首先這是一篇純心情貼,沒有任何技術含量,其實對於花錢買裝備就能爽的D3而言,也壓根沒什麼技術值得討論的。
本貼主要以謾駡和發洩為主,如果你是blizzard的忠實粉絲,並且的堅定的表示,無論blizzard作出怎樣垃圾的遊戲,你都無厘頭的表示支持,如同你所鍾愛的明星,無論他做出怎麼樣禽獸不如的事情,你都不離不棄。那麼為了避免你腸胃不適,肝火過大,這帖子你可以不看。對於那些說“你不喜歡玩就別玩,少在這唧唧歪歪的”人,我想說,我花錢買的遊戲,我怎麼用這個遊戲娛樂是我的事。
我認為天天讓怪物打我,並不能讓我娛樂,我目前玩D3的主要方式,就是以罵他為主。

我是人民幣戰士,怪是美刀戰士!

D3上線接近兩個月,我跌跌撞撞的把兩個角色練到60級。按照blizzard的說法,現在遊戲才剛開始。所有的技能全部都解鎖了,所有的難度你都可以去了。
在經歷了煉獄的種種洗禮之後,我發現,在這個遊戲裏,我才是怪物。而那些怪物才是花錢買遊戲的人。我想它們一定很爽。每天一見到我就嘿嘿傻笑。每當我跑魂的時候,我都在想,那三個藍怪肯定這會蹲在地上抽煙呢,估計正聊著。
一個藍怪說:“你說那孫子也挺執著的吧,都死了幾十次了,還他媽來。他不煩我都煩了。”
另一個藍怪,邊吐火邊說:“你們懂什麼,這就叫犯!超人。”
最後一個深沉的說:“哥幾個看著,這個貨這會再來,我給你玩個一擊斃命,你們都歇著,蹲一邊看著就行”。
然後看見一個買不起外掛的@絲野蠻人,穿著沉重的盔甲,哼哧哼哧的跑過來,剛擺了一個要出手的造型就被滅了,瞬間變成小十字架戳在地上。
我狂罵一聲,我艸!然後有幾分鐘四顧茫然不知道該#什麼。

神邏輯,遊戲難度=裝備好壞!

我很想問問,blizzard的人,你們是怎麼理解難度這個詞的。把怪物的血加大,把傷害提高。這就是增加難度?
並且blizzard一再的在自己的藍帖裏振振有詞的說,如果你總是死,這說明你的裝備等級不夠。我真想嚴肅對這幫孫子說,給勞資滾粗。
如果僅僅是穿了牛B的裝備,然後隨便讓我8個月的女兒,瞎拍者滑鼠也能過關的遊戲,這叫有難度嘛?難道你的難度僅僅是針對那些沒錢,或者不願意花錢的玩家嘛?

裝備?窮人要什麼裝備!

D3的裝備掉落設計非常的扯淡,第一章掉落的物品等級完全不可能支撐玩家到下一章節去玩,也就是說,就算你在地獄裏打一百年,如果你不去AH,,你就別想在煉獄裏混。
我已經花錢買了遊戲了,為什麼要在AH再花一遍錢。如果你不花錢,那麼不好意思,煉獄的大門已經向你關閉。但其實煉獄的門開了也沒啥意思,劇情完全一致,全是那些你已經聽到耳朵起繭子的對白。無非是貌似更好掉落的極品裝備。
就算你能完全碾壓煉獄又能怎麼樣呢,把那些曾經嘲笑過你的藍怪全部$趴下?這貌似是我目前唯一的動力。但是,但是,這有什麼意義?我們都輸了。

這到底有什麼意義?

那些考驗玩家微操作能力的,考驗技能搭配的,考驗玩家智商的的設計,那些設計被稱為難度。而不是這種只要花錢就能搞定的難度,這種難度完全是來噁心玩家的。
同樣噁心玩家的還有,那個%^樹妖都已經死了,為什麼我沖過去撿東西還要被毒到?你非要我在那灘噁心的屍體前默哀夠了才能去撿東西嘛?我想問問你,這有什麼意義?
我想對著山谷大聲呼喚,這他-*有什麼意義,有什麼意義——!意義——!義……

快速升級怎麼就成了大逆不道?

我很想對問問你們的自戀狂編劇和遊戲導演,你們對自己設計的劇情就這麼有信心,你們就一廂情願的認為玩家會看20遍,依然如癡如醉?
你以為你們的劇情是聖經啊,我就喜歡在簡單難度裏用虐待怪物的方式混到60,為什麼重複做任務就要降低經驗?就是為了你們那個垃圾伺服器禁不起玩家反復上下線的折騰?
有人喜歡細細品味,走遍地圖的每一個角落,也有人喜歡做無聊但是很有效率的事情,這是玩家的自由,你們沒有權利限制!
這就好比,我買了一個洗衣機,你們建議我拿來洗衣服,可我就喜歡拿來裝米,我覺得拿洗衣機裝米比較拉風,比較能彰顯我的個性。你可以嘲笑我是個土鼈,但是你不能因為我拿洗衣機裝米,就遠端鎖定,壓根兒就不讓我打開洗衣機的門。洗衣機是我買的,我拿來洗衣服還是裝米裝面是我的自由。
自由,你懂嘛??liberty,你們美國人不是號稱最明白自由的含義嘛,這個不用我教你吧。如果你真正的理解玩家,你們就應該善意的設置一些可以快速升級的地方。設置一些可以快速升級的方法,比如大號帶小號之類的。你們甚至應該設置一個最快升級到60的成就。把這個也作為遊戲的樂趣的之一,讓遊戲的樂趣多元化,而不是總是一味的被怪物虐待到大小便失禁。

打不起,我還死不起了?

這個是最無厘頭的修改!我打不過我死總行了吧,現在死也不讓隨便死了?你們還能不能講點理?講理能懷孕嘛?!
你們說,你們不希望玩家拖屍過,又是你們“不希望”。我裝備差,我又不想花錢,我就喜歡拖屍過,憑什麼不行?我拖屍我自豪!這也是我的樂趣,你管的著嘛?
現實問題是,玩家一死,怪物就回血。就算拖屍也未必過得去。現在你連拖屍也不讓了。就剩最後一條路,就是去花錢買裝備。
我想問問,你們乾脆去讓騰訊代理算了,沖年費會員送極品五鑽裝備,還做什麼遊戲啊。

我花錢買正版遊戲,連不上伺服器怪我們大陸人多?!

這個我最不能理解,我本身是做IT的,你們的系統成型之後,一次能併發支援多少用戶數,這個應該是整個系統最重要的指標吧?這個數字你們會不知道?
你們既然不能支持那麼多用戶登錄,你們賣那麼多拷貝!什麼?也就是說,你們明明知道,這其中有些用戶一定登陸不上,或者說登陸上來也是慢動作,也玩不了。你們還是繼續賣。這能理解為騙錢嘛?
有人說,因為大陸人多。扯淡!這個和大陸人有一毛錢關係。你伺服器就能容納那麼多人,就算這些人全都在韓國,臺灣,一樣的卡。
換句話來說,你們伺服器沒有那麼大容量之前,就別賣那麼多拷貝。

暴雪?暗黑三?滾粗!

我不知道Blizzard有沒有大爺,不管了,不管你有沒有大爺,我都@#大爺!大爺你懂嗎?就是你爸爸的哥哥。你們美國人叫uncle,你們可能很奇怪,放著媽媽妹妹不操,為什麼要操大爺。我教你一回,你記住了,這就叫自♂由。
看看你們的藍貼,通篇充斥“我們不希望”這樣的詞句。不希望拖屍過,不希望反復做同一個任務,不希望踢罐子,不希望反復刷boss,不希望……
有一千個人,就有一千種娛樂的方式,不能你覺得有意思的,就一廂情願的認為別人也覺得有意思。同樣的,你覺得沒意思的,也許我覺得很有意思呢。換句文雅的一點的話就是,汝之醇醪,彼之鴆藥。
我就喜歡踢罐子,每次掉一塊錢我也踢,不為別的,就為聽一聲脆響。這種高境界,你能理解嘛?你讓我們死不起,又不給簡單便捷的金幣來源。你想$什麼?
你們的遊戲設計師,是不是每天睡醒來就是想今天怎麼折磨一下玩家?今天我們來玩個死不起。過兩天我再把怪物的傷害降低,然後把玩家武器的傷害也降低,看看這兩個孫子誰厲害。你們不是喜歡刷boss嘛,好,我弄個狂暴,看看這次還弄不死你。
Blizzard,你們知道為什麼D3這麼火嗎,完全是仗著D2的威名。仗著萬千玩家對這個系列的寵愛,仗著我們這些30大幾的人殘存的一點往日記憶。
如果這個遊戲不是頂著Diablo系列的名號,它就是一坨屎。放在大陸也就是流覽器時不時蹦出來的小廣告的檔次。一個小蘿莉半解羅衫,騷呼呼的說,快來點我啊,不點我就變怪物了哦,現在註冊不但全免費還送一億金幣哦,你沒看錯,是一億金幣不是一億%^哦。

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如如不动,是动中求静,如如不静,是静中求动,不可求大,不可求小,折中可生

发表于 2012-6-28 11:33 |显示全部楼层
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只能说各花入各眼,像我玩rpg一定要把全地图走遍一次的,慢慢看墙上怪物壁画的,没到hell act4就自然60级了,根本没需要做重复任务,像主任务规定只能做一次拿经验也没所谓。
客舍并州已十霜,归心日夜忆咸阳。
无端更渡桑干水,却望并州是故乡。
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8个月大的女儿,IT男.

典型的中国大陆暗黑玩家啊.

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太经典了。超爱 elite's conversation in english!

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DAYE那段笑翻了

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DAYE... 神翻译...

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怪不得我到30就玩不下去了
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汝之醇醪,彼之鴆藥!!!

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原帖由 pepsico 于 2012-6-28 15:29 发表
怪不得我到30就玩不下去了

那只能是你自己的问题了。。。

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