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[创业交流] 澳洲房地产开发公司的规则 [复制链接]

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如题, 想了解一下在澳洲做房地产开发的经营方式。(不是房地产买卖中介)

知道论坛上都是牛人,如果正好遇到业内人士,请大致介绍一下。或者说可以去哪里查询资料。

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资料?什么资料?

买地,找人申请DA,找人建。

DA下来后卖楼花,或者建好后卖现楼。

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Developers

Under the Home Building Act 1989, a developer is an individual or company or partnership on whose behalf residential building work was or is to be done:

    in a building or residential development where there are or will be four (4) or more dwellings owned by that individual, company or partnership; or
    in connection with a retirement village or accommodation designed for the disabled where all of the residential units are or will be owned by that individual, company or partnership.

A company that owns a building under a company title scheme is not a developer for the purposes of the Home Building Act 1989.

The builder is the individual, company or partnership that carries out the residential building work.
Residential building work

Residential building work is any work involved in the doing or the supervision or the co-ordination of the construction of (or alterations, repairs or additions to, or protective treatment of) a dwelling.

A dwelling (ie. house, terrace, villa, home unit, etc) includes:

    swimming pool or spa
    garage, shed, cupboards, driveway, fence, and
    various other structures prescribed by the regulations when they are constructed for use in conjunction with a dwelling.

A developer usually arranges for another party (licensed contractor) to do the residential building work.

The contractor (whether an individual, company or partnership) which carries out the building work is:

    responsible for the entire project
    subject to the licensing and insurance requirements of the Home Building Act.

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Caution to developers

A note of caution to developers who contract two or more parties:

    developers may contract one or more person/ company/ partnership to undertake part of a residential building project
    each person/ company/ partnership is only responsible for the work specified under their contracts
    if the developer contracts two or more parties to work on the same building project, the developer is supervising and co-ordinating the work; this means that they are taken to be undertaking residential building work under the title of ‘builder’ and take on responsibility for this role.

Example 1

Sometimes a developer may hire:

    a licensed builder to supervise the technical aspects of the building project, and
    other contractors to carry out various trade works in the building project.

The licensed builder is only responsible to supervise or do the part of work they are contracted to do and is not responsible for the work that the developer hired the other parties to do.
Example 2

A developer:

    contracts a variety of trade contractors to work a number of roles, or
    hires two contractors, where one contractor might do, say, excavation work as preparation for the foundations and another contractor does the construction work.

If the excavation work here is part of the entire residential building work project (eg. by being support work for permanent foundations, rather than a hole for temporary shoring) the developer who contracts the separate contractors to do the different parts could be seen as co-ordinating the whole project.

Important: Each situation should be considered on its own facts.

The developer who does the building work or co-ordinates other contractors who are doing the work becomes subject to the provisions of the Act as a ‘spec’ builder.

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‘Spec’ builders

A ‘spec’ builder is the general term for an individual, company or partnership who carries out residential building work on land that they own. The ‘spec’ builder is a licensed builder and therefore does not need to contract out the work, but can do their own residential building work.

The building work is speculative, meaning the property is generally intended to be sold at completion.

Regardless of their intention (to sell or keep the property for investment), the ‘spec’ builder must:

    arrange home warranty insurance on the proposed residential building work before starting the work
    attach the certificate of home warranty insurance to the contract for sale of the property.

If the home warranty insurance certificate is not attached to the contract for sale, the:

    ‘spec’ builder is committing an offence and may be subject to a penalty
    purchaser has the right to rescind the contract for sale before settlement.

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Developers’ responsibilities
Home warranty insurance

A developer needs to ensure that the builder has arranged home warranty insurance for each dwelling before work commences if they contract a builder (principal contractor) to:

    undertake the building work
    take responsibility for the entire project.

When selling the property within 6 years of completion of the work, the developer must give the certificate of home warranty insurance with the contract, to each purchaser of a dwelling.

It is an offence for a developer to enter into a contract for sale of land where residential building was done or is currently being done or is to be done on the developer's behalf unless the certificate of home warranty insurance provided by the builder is attached to the contract for sale - except in certain circumstances for 'off the plan' sales.

The purchaser has the right to cancel the contract before settlement if the certificate of home warranty insurance is not attached to the contract of sale. Certain circumstances, such as sale off-the-plan are exempt.

Important: Under the Home Building Act 1989 a home warranty insurance policy is not required to cover a developer on whose behalf residential building work is being done. This is reflected in all currently available home warranty insurance policies, where developers are a standard exclusion.

Developers should seek independent professional advice as to other measures available to them to minimise any loss as a result of the death, disappearance or insolvency of the builder they engage. Such measures might include requiring a builder to have some other appropriate insurance in place (e.g. principal nominated contractor insurance) or requiring a builder to provide an on-demand bank guarantee, letter of credit or performance bond/surety which can be presented for payment if there is a default under the building contract.
Engaging licensed contractors

From 29 April 2005, it has been an offence under the Home Building Act, for a developer to:

    knowingly employ an unlicensed contractor
    refuse to disclose to a building inspector the names and addresses of persons working on the site

Monetary penalties may be imposed for breaches of the legislation.  The Home Building Act provides for a maximum penalty of $22,000 for individuals and $110,000 for a corporation.

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原帖由 gumpfool 于 2011-9-13 18:13 发表
如题, 想了解一下在澳洲做房地产开发的经营方式。(不是房地产买卖中介)

知道论坛上都是牛人,如果正好遇到业内人士,请大致介绍一下。或者说可以去哪里查询资料。

谢谢

不知道楼主到底要问什么问题。
做开发无非就是筹钱,买地,找builder,卖房.具体里面的学问大了,网上很难找到相关信息。
Nothing is impossible!

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看到其他人做的方式:做土地开发基本就是整理好你的资金链,银行贷款。找好项目,比如是打算做一些政府合作项目,还是单纯从私人手里买土地,地可以是生地或者熟地。如果连建造也自己做就去考执照。剩下的就是想尽一切办法最大化土地的价值。
州政府还支持一些卫星城的发展有些特别项目,并出台优惠政策,比如你如果是海外投资到当地的房地产开发,可以申请某些类别的移民。。。扯远了
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哪个城市?

悉尼我有些经验

别的城市只有炒房的经历了
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谢谢楼上几位的发言, 偶在澳洲已经有身份,不是为了移民需求.目前生活在墨尔本,所以大多情况下,会优先考虑在本土发展.

以前在国内有做房地产开发,不过在国外比较不同,不同背景,要求

在网上很难找到相关资料,一下子不知道在哪里入手.

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原帖由 640 于 2011-9-13 20:20 发表
资料?什么资料?

买地,找人申请DA,找人建。

DA下来后卖楼花,或者建好后卖现楼。


DA stand for what?

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取决于你要干多大的项目,需要的经验和做法都是不太一样的。
在澳洲,几十套以上的UNIT,自己投资,请别人建的华人有一些,60%以上有痛苦的经历,BUILDER太难应付而且贪婪,他们熟悉规则,你玩不过他们。不管是白鬼或黎巴嫩鬼,甚至中国BUILDERS。中国人builder做过大点项目的就那么几个,有些人也很黑心的。
想利润合理或者可以控制,就得雇人自己建,可是懂这种项目管理的中国人和刚刚说的中国人builder一样不多。
总之,找到合适的人才是硬道理。否则,如果不是你运气超好,就要搞的你焦头烂额,赔个底儿掉的也大把人在。

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LS的, 大家任何问题短信给我!
也发了email 给LZ.


[ 本帖最后由 sydemu 于 2011-9-14 19:53 编辑 ]

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这个看起来还挺概括的
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development approval

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development application?

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谢谢,应该就是这个

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没有看到你的email, 是什么??

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楼主可以先开发个两三个town house的项目练练手

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development application is the right answer

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我也想借贴问问,这房产开发公司,能不能做投资移民的生意?因为有朋友要移民,想找生意做。
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原帖由 mia2178 于 2011-9-17 22:41 发表
我有多年在本地律师事务所工作经验,已经帮助几十个商业移民客人拿到澳洲永居签证。我可以肯定的告诉你,做房地产业可以申请商业移民。行业不是问题, 问题是你的公司规模如何,管理过程如何。 如真有需要,可以通过EMAIL和我联系: philip13philip@yahoo.com.au



AGENT NAME: BOWEN FAN MARN:0956021

2年不到 ---> 多年

2年不到 --->  几十个商业移民。  整个澳洲多少个商业移民? 几个做房地产可以移民的? 能做房地产的还做移民?

歪楼不要紧,做广告也凑合,可不能这么过份把无说成有把?

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开发这里面条条框框很多的,如果你自己不收悉里面的规则,也没有靠得住的朋友可以帮你。还是算了吧。

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兄弟如果没在澳洲房产行业的混过的话,兄弟你先做几个duplex熟悉一下吧,
这里面流程太多,不是一句,2句就能说得清的,



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一般都找当地人
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       

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细节很多,条条框框也很多,如果你没有熟识各方面的可靠的contractor,建议找熟悉这个行业的人合作,或者去这个行业相关的公司打工混经验。最大的风险就是时间超时,品质出问题,预算超标,售价超低,导致本来一个很有利润的项目最后成了砸钱的项目。

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要是我就先买块地盖个2-3个house然后卖,unit这种风险太大了,这要多少资金啊
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船小好调头,2-3个house慢慢熬,不会亏太多吧

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自己买2块地盖2个双拼出去卖3个,要不要这么麻烦啊

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tracy99 发表于 2011-9-14 08:29
取决于你要干多大的项目,需要的经验和做法都是不太一样的。
在澳洲,几十套以上的UNIT,自己投资,请别人建 ...

风险无处不在呀。

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sydemu 发表于 2011-9-14 20:35
LS的, 大家任何问题短信给我!
也发了email 给LZ.

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