解聘员工需要注意什么？

PShshuo

小店一间，一月份招了一个FULLTIME 老外，可是他的PERFROMANCE太差，决定炒掉。。

以前的员工都是好来好走，而且都是请亚洲人，这次请的老外，不知道会不会不同。。

如果解聘，需要走什么流程么？有特别要注意的事项么？

多谢指教！！

JohnnySu

Calculate ETP correctly.
Also make sure you have paid super and PAYG ontime.

yanyangtian

谷歌一下咯。找个好听的理由开掉他。

shubb2008

书面Notice

PShshuo

taxbreak 发表于 2013-3-8 12:34
Calculate ETP correctly.
Also make sure you have paid super and PAYG ontime.

He works here only about 1&half month...guess ETP shouldn't apply?

Yes, super and PAYG paid on time..

sugarling

是casual 还是part time 呀
casual 直接走，
其他的要书面的给notice 的

PShshuo

sugarling 发表于 2013-3-8 12:59
是casual 还是part time 呀
casual 直接走，
其他的要书面的给notice 的

FULL TIME...  当初要人要的急。。
下次学乖了，3个月试用期后才给正式OFFER，估计就没有那么多事了。。。

cycwong21

When you employ him, did you tell him there's 3 months probation time? If you wanted to dimiss him within probation period, it should be easier than after 3 months. Even he worked more than 3 months, you still could fire him without writing any notice. Just becareful the way when you talked to him. Tried to be more nice and polite. No everyone has time to sue you, including australian employees.

Just called him to your office, and tell him his performance is not up to standard. You don't think he's fitted into your company. Don't have to write down anything to him (avoid of leaving any kind of evidence using by him), just pay off whatever entitlements he's entitled to, and tell him: "you may go now". Be calm, don't argue with him. If he asked why, simply repeat that his performance and the way he worked are not accepted by the office. Remember to issue him a 'separation certificate' for him to apply benefits from Centrelink. You may download this form from Centrelink, and fill it up for him.

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/forms/su001

Do not fill up the reason in the form that "not enough work". Otherwise, you can not employ anyone else to replace him within half year. he could sue you for unfair dismissal.

Bearing in mind, in Australia, you can "not" fire an employee just because he comes to office late and leave office early; or always taking sick leave or holiday leave.

PShshuo

cycwong21 发表于 2013-3-8 13:13
When you employ him, did you tell him there's 3 months probation time? If you wanted to dimiss him w ...

Many thank!! very helpful tips..

“Bearing in mind, in Australia, you can "not" fire an employee just because he comes to office late and leave office early; or always taking sick leave or holiday leave.”

one question is why we can't fire him for the above reason....

This is one of the reasons I have to fire him as for the past 30 working days, he's running late more than 10 days..some time being late for half hour and some times even one hour.

Of cos his general performance doesn't meet my requirement..

Just feel very curious why we can't fire people because of being late so often....

yesoptus

cycwong21 发表于 2013-3-8 13:13
When you employ him, did you tell him there's 3 months probation time? If you wanted to dimiss him w ...

非常专业！谢谢分享。

yoyoshen

鬼佬最烦了，这个那个唧唧歪歪的，小business真心不敢用鬼佬啊

cycwong21

PShshuo 发表于 2013-3-8 12:48
Many thank!! very helpful tips..

“Bearing in mind, in Australia, you can "not" fire an employee  ...

Because there are many court cases supporting employees rather than employers.

PShshuo

yoyoshen 发表于 2013-3-8 13:59
鬼佬最烦了，这个那个唧唧歪歪的，小business真心不敢用鬼佬啊

原来看一个同行用了，销售额上去很多。。。就想仿效一下。。。

我昨天打电话给他也是咨询这个事，哪里晓得他也把他的鬼佬员工给炒了，而且出了些麻烦，所以才特意发帖子在这里求助阿。。。

dieselrocks

以后直接雇causal，hourly rate高一点 但是炒人容易 少很多麻烦

kevindo

8楼说的很清楚也很专业，补充几点：
1. 雇人尽量请CASUAL或PART TIME，尽量不要碰FULL TIME，不然作为雇主有很多LIABILITY；
2. 如果是FT，试用期之内（可以三个月，可以半年，都合法），可以随时DISMISSAL， NO LIABILITY；
3. 如果过了PROBATION，一年之内的，需要给WRITTEN NOTICE（提前至少一周），不需要支付REDUNDANT PAY；
4. 如果满了一年，不满两年的，需要给WRITTEN NOTICE（提前至少两周），炒完以后需要支付等同于四周工资的REDUNDANT PAY。

ellepopo

没有试用期的么？按合同执行吧，要给4周NOTICE 吧

赵飞燕

借此帖问一句：如果生意买卖，新雇主必须接受老雇主的鬼佬员工吗？一周工作多长时间算是FT?

denn

kevindo 发表于 2013-3-8 15:27
8楼说的很清楚也很专业，补充几点：
1. 雇人尽量请CASUAL或PART TIME，尽量不要碰FULL TIME，不然作为雇主 ...

一年4个星期？那澳洲就没人做小生意了。

小老虎

denn 发表于 2013-3-9 18:13
一年4个星期？那澳洲就没人做小生意了。

小生意 一般就夫妻老婆店 外加 1，2，3 个part time 打工的
澳洲小生意 是生活在水深火热中

小老虎

朋友的小店 搞了2个鬼佬 full time, 一到假期 就休假 ，所以假期就是老板自己苦干，尤其是圣诞节前后最忙的时候

小老虎

dieselrocks 发表于 2013-3-8 15:20
以后直接雇causal，hourly rate高一点 但是炒人容易 少很多麻烦

denn

小老虎 发表于 2013-3-10 10:02
小生意 一般就夫妻老婆店 外加 1，2，3 个part time 打工的  
澳洲小生意 是生活在水深火热中  :lo ...

人无知，这不是大事可以学，人白的话就要出大事了。

cycwong21

If the company had less than 15 employees, it would be considered as SME. Then, there's no redundancy pay.

yuxuanlin

楼主，你家生意一共雇用了几个人？

15个人头以下，你12个月内都可以解雇。不需要理由。

确保，工资是按法定支付的，节假日都按节假日付的，加班要不付了钱，要不给了假。

年假要计算付给人家，养老金都付清了。

好聚好散，不要把人家搞毛，下不来台，关系不要搞僵。

lovefenger

歪个楼啊，如果员工sick leave 给了医生证明。雇主有权利再细问到底怎么病了，哪里病了等等吗？

marcoluo09

lovefenger 发表于 2013-3-10 18:08
歪个楼啊，如果员工sick leave 给了医生证明。雇主有权利再细问到底怎么病了，哪里病了等等吗？ ...

这个我记得是属于staff privacy的内容，雇主无权询问。所以GP也不需要写staff因为什么原因生病。stress leave应该算是极端典型的了。直接一到两周。什么人也不能问咋回事。

lovefenger

marcoluo09 发表于 2013-3-10 18:32
这个我记得是属于staff privacy的内容，雇主无权询问。所以GP也不需要写staff因为什么原因生病。stress l ...

哦，是吗？他们要是装出关心你的样子使劲问怎么办啊？

marcoluo09

lovefenger 发表于 2013-3-10 18:42
哦，是吗？他们要是装出关心你的样子使劲问怎么办啊？

可以说，哦，这个啊，我一般只和我的医生谈这样的问题。就不怎么有人会问了吧。毕竟是自己的隐私。

melgrace

full time慎重啊，除非是比较信任的人。

lovefenger

恩，谢谢啦