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[人生百味] 去casino 抓人 [复制链接]

发表于 2009-5-26 18:53 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 winsome 于 2009-5-18 21:06 发表


我可以很负责地告诉你:这世界上没有这种你所说的牛人!赌场没有黑名单,不要被好莱坞的电影骗了。要相信科学,赌场的概率的依据是科学,而不是其他。
长赌必输!


如不清楚, 请别误导别人。。。

牛人确实有。。。。赌场也确实有黑名单。。

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_counting
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自制力差的人还是不要进赌场为好

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中国人里我估计不少是贪污受贿来的钱吧!

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狠!!
几年前VIP是越南人多的...先在变成中国人了~~~

风吹鸡蛋壳...财散人安乐....(千古名句)

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一个亲戚的小孩,20岁,男的,来澳洲3年了,前两年都很乖,自己打工,赚钱,生活费都不要家里出, 去年开始,被朋友带去casino玩,现在都上瘾了,工也不去打,课也不上,外面欠了几千钱, 父母(在国内)最近才知道,托朋友帮他把债还了, 控制他的钱,苦口婆心和他讲道理,他还是控制不住自己,被逼去打工,一拿到工资就往赌场跑, 唉,都不知道怎么拯救这小孩。

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原帖由 yingwei..suoyi 于 2009-5-26 18:53 发表


如不清楚, 请别误导别人。。。

牛人确实有。。。。赌场也确实有黑名单。。

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_counting


这句话也适用于你自己,记牌曾经是有争议的方法,但随着机械洗牌机的诞生,这种方法已经完全无效。

再说一次,赌场依靠的是严密的科学论证而不是作弊更不是迷信。

另外,如果真有所谓牛人可以打败赌场,那么根据法律,赌场也没有权利不让他进入,法律对赌场的规范是非常严格的。
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发表于 2009-5-26 21:24 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 winsome 于 2009-5-26 20:50 发表


这句话也适用于你自己,记牌曾经是有争议的方法,但随着机械洗牌机的诞生,这种方法已经完全无效。

再说一次,赌场依靠的是严密的科学论证而不是作弊更不是迷信。

另外,如果真有所谓牛人可以打败赌场,那 ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Uston
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Hyland

依据都给你了, 还要瞎掰。。。。

算牌不是作弊, 我也没说迷信可赢赌场。。。。

上一个wiki 的link已说了。。。。有些赌场是可以以私人场所来列黑名单的。。。。

真不知是谁不懂装懂。。。。 我不懂, 但我会查。。。

发表于 2009-5-26 21:36 |显示全部楼层
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Detecting card counters
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Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2008)

Monitoring player behavior to assist with detecting the card counters falls into the hands of the on-floor casino personnel ("pit bosses") and casino-surveillance personnel, who may use video surveillance ("the eye in the sky") as well as computer analysis, to try to spot playing behavior indicative of card counting; early counter-strategies featured the dealers' learning to count the cards themselves to recognize the patterns in the players. In addition, many casinos employ the services of various agencies, such as Griffin Investigations, who claim to have a catalog of advantage players. If a player is found to be in such a database, he will almost certainly be stopped from play and asked to leave regardless of his table play. For successful card counters, therefore, skill at "cover" behavior, to hide counting and avoid "drawing heat" and possibly being barred, may be just as important as playing skill.

There have been some high-profile lawsuits involving whether the casino is allowed to bar card-counters.[23] Essentially, card-counting, if done in one's head and with no outside assistance from devices such as blackjack computers, is not illegal. Making calculations within one's own mind is not an arrestable offence. Using an outside device or aid, however, was found illegal in a court case in Nevada. In this case, two individuals were convicted of cheating for using a video device to gain knowledge of a blackjack dealer's hole card.[24] While this case is clearly distinct from pure card-counting, the precedent could possibly be applied to electronic devices used by players to assist in counting cards. At the time of the trial, however, there was no anti-device law in Nevada, and the law that was written after this case is considered by many attorneys to be unconstitutionally vague.[citation needed] Still, the law has been adopted by most other states with casinos, and no player has yet tried the constitutionality of the law.

Casinos do not tolerate card counters or practitioners of other legal professional gambling techniques willingly and, if permitted by their jurisdiction, may ban counters from their casinos. In Nevada, where the casinos are ruled to be private places, the only prerequisite to a ban is the full reading of the Trespass Act to ban a player for a year. Some skilled counters try to disguise their identities and playing habits; however, some casinos have claimed that facial recognition software can often match a camouflaged face with a banned one. In the experience of most professional gamblers, this is untrue, and a 2004 book by a Las Vegas casino surveillance director, The Card Counter's Guide to Casino Surveillance, also declares this assertion to be an overstatement. Approximately 100 casinos in the United States used the Griffin Investigations consulting firm to help them track down and monitor card counters, before the firm's bankruptcy as a result of a lawsuit for libel filed by professional gamblers.

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原帖由 y12345678 于 13-5-2009 10:36 发表
当年和LD第一次去悉尼的star city赌场,冲的是每人送的10到筹码,领到后发现不能直接兑现。就在老虎机周转了几盘,直接兑成现金走人了。

现在还琢磨,为啥只有新用户才送10刀呢?害得我们在没有机会去娱乐了


遇见同志了

发表于 2009-5-26 21:55 |显示全部楼层
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Ma
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_Blackjack_Team

http://www.thinktalk.com/show/jeff_ma


(Excertps from: http://www.usatoday.com/life/mov ... 25-jeff-ma-21_N.htm

Card counting isn't illegal; casinos just refuse service the way an upscale restaurant can to underdressed patrons. The MIT students stymied casinos by working as a team. In short: One student played the minimum bet at a blackjack table, counting how many high and low cards were being dealt. If a table was "hot," with high cards still in the deck, the student signaled a partner, who would place single-hand bets as high as $10,000.

Though deft card counting increases your odds by only about 3%, "that makes a big difference in what you can make," Ma says. "It's pretty simple math."

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原帖由 yingwei..suoyi 于 2009-5-26 21:24 发表


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Uston
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Hyland

依据都给你了, 还要瞎掰。。。。

算牌不是作弊, 我也没说迷信可赢赌场。。。。

上一个wiki 的link已说了。。。 ...


wiki的信息已经out-of-date了,如果你亲临现在全世界任何一个赌场,都已经是用洗牌机连续洗牌,永远保持8副牌在机器里,所以算牌已经不可能

wiki上面说的是美国的赌场曾经禁过一些人进入,但在澳洲,赌场是不可以拒绝别人下注的,除非你要求ban掉自己。

不要迷信wiki,很多信息都已经过时了,靠wiki是不能成为权威的。
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发表于 2009-5-27 00:02 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 winsome 于 2009-5-26 23:58 发表


wiki的信息已经out-of-date了,如果你亲临现在全世界任何一个赌场,都已经是用洗牌机连续洗牌,永远保持8副牌在机器里,所以算牌已经不可能

wiki上面说的是美国的赌场曾经禁过一些人进入,但在澳洲,赌场是不 ...


谁说世界上任何一个赌场,都用洗牌机了?你去crown看看,就知道了,更不用说澳洲其他的赌场。
另外,赌场当然可以禁止任何他们想拒绝的客人入内了。

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发表于 2009-6-7 23:45 |显示全部楼层
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原帖由 auway 于 2009-5-27 00:02 发表


谁说世界上任何一个赌场,都用洗牌机了?你去crown看看,就知道了,更不用说澳洲其他的赌场。
另外,赌场当然可以禁止任何他们想拒绝的客人入内了。


确实,crown最近好多桌都是手洗八副牌。

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原帖由 qunlbao 于 2009-5-14 17:12 发表


赌场是private的,可以不让你进去,赚赌场钱哪有这么容易,
许多高手都去参加lv的年度poke大赛,赢了有1 mil,上次赢家是澳洲人


http://www.blindbetpoker.com/wsop/2005wsop.html

2005年的,得了7.5millionUSD,按当时的汇率几乎是一千四百万澳币

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有钱的人有钱没处花,只好乱赌
没钱的人吃顿饭还死前顾后,
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