非主流之我最爱

colaice

Nirvana - 灿烂涅磐

曾几何时，从不知追星为何物的我，却在最初听到unplugged in new york的时候，义无反顾的把那个声音当作了自己的精神图腾。毋庸置疑，现实中唯一能令我数十年如一日痴迷不改的，也只有科特克本。他对于我心灵的震撼如此强烈，或许只是因为他过于短暂的生命，如流星般划过，刹那间化作绚丽的永恒。在他事业“如日中天”的时刻，他却对自己举起了手枪，点燃生命最后的火焰，完美的诠释了涅磐的灿烂与辉煌。

十几年了，却怎样也无法忘怀，那个孤独而又敏感的灵魂，又是怎样不幸的来错了时代。这是一个充满着尔虞我诈，充满着廉价的掌声，虚伪的赞美和堂皇的欺骗的年代。当别人都心安理得随波逐流的同时，他却无法接受这样的讽刺。于是他匆匆的来，又黯然的走了。

14岁的我，本该是年少轻狂，无忧无愁，却因他的离去，开始懵懂着思索永生的价值。当科特用行动为我撕开生命残忍而美丽的伪装，当我看到血淋淋的灵魂在挣扎，我曾那样深切的感受到刺透骨髓的痛楚。生亦何欢，死亦何苦。或许我该为你欣慰吧，挣脱了生命的枷锁，卸下了灵魂的桎梏，那个自由的家园，才是你真正属于的地方。

《Where did you sleep last night》，我最爱的一曲，古老的布鲁斯民谣，虽然不是科特原创，也不止一人翻唱过，却只有他能够演绎得如此深入人心。已然不记得为何，曲终时候，似乎能听到他一声叹息，让人心碎。这样的莫名，或许真是他想表达的情绪吧。

Where did you sleep last night

Where did you sleep last night

My girl, my girl, dont lie to me
Tell me, where did you sleep last night?
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun dont ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, where will you go?
Im going where the cold wind blows
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun dont ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

Her husband, was a hard working man
Just about a mile from here
His head was found in a driving wheel
But his body never was found

My girl, my girl, dont lie to me
Tell me, where did you sleep last night?
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun dont ever shine
I will shiver the whole night through
(sing it for me)

My girl, my girl, where will you go?
Im going where the cold wind blows
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun dont ever shine
I would shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, dont lie to me
Tell me, where did you sleep last night?
In the pines, in the pines
Where the sun dont ever shine
I will shiver the whole night through

My girl, my girl, where will ya go?
Im going where the cold wind blows
In the pines, the pines
The sun, the shine
Ill shiver the whole night through


heart shaped box


[ 本帖最后由 colaice 于 2008-10-3 20:22 编辑 ]

colaice

摇滚并不是一门让人安静着去享受的艺术，它是一种用热情和狂野来宣泄的叛逆，是一种不羁的灵魂想要对强大的世界寻求解放的挣扎。一直以为自己，也和Guns N’Roses们有着同样的天性，总是试图在Rock N’ Roll中寻找自我。可是最终，在枪炮玫瑰们歇斯底里的疯狂面前，我却退缩了。所有专辑里，我仅仅能喜欢<Use Your Illusion>,，而其中，又仅仅只有<Don’t Cry>和<November Rain>可以让我爱不释手，百听不厌。才终于明白，原来我想要的，只是喧闹之下的平静，我想要的，并不是在狂野中寻找自己，而是在宁静中忘却自我。
Don cry

Don cry
Talk to me softly
There's something in your eyes
Don't hang your head in sorrow
And please don't cry
I know how you feel inside I've
I've been there before
Somethin's changin' inside you baby
And don't you know

Don't you cry tonight
I still love you
Don't you cry tonight
Don't you cry tonight
There's a heaven above you baby
And don't you cry tonight

Give me a whisper
And give me a sigh
Give me a kiss before you tell me goodbye
Don't you take it so hard now
And please don't take it so bad
I'll still be thinking of you
And the times we had ... baby

And don't you cry tonight
Don't you cry tomight
Don't you cry tonight
There's a heaven above you baby
And don't you cry tonight

And please remember that I never lied
And please remember
How I felt inside now honey
You gotta make it your own way
But you'll be alright now sugar
You'll feel better tomorrow
Come the morning light now baby

And don't you cry tonight
An don't you cry tonight
An don't you cry tonight
There's a heaven above you baby
And don't you cry
Don't you ever cry
Don't you cry tonight
Baby maybe someday
Don't you cry
Don't you ever cry
Don't you cry
Tonight

colaice

When I look into your eyes
I can see a love restrained
But darlin' when I hold you
Don't you know I feel the same

'Cause nothin' lasts forever
And we both know hearts can change
And it's hard to hold a candle
In the cold November rain

We've been through this such a long long time
Just tryin' to kill the pain

But lovers always come and lovers always go
An no one's really sure who's lettin' go today
Walking away

If we could take the time
to lay it on the line
I could rest my head
Just knowin' that you were mine
All mine
So if you want to love me
then darlin' don't refrain
Or I'll just end up walkin'
In the cold November rain

Do you need some time...on your own
Do you need some time...all alone
Everybody needs some time...
on their own
Don't you know you need some time...all alone

I know it's hard to keep an open heart
When even friends seem out to harm you
But if you could heal a broken heart
Wouldn't time be out to charm you

Sometimes I need some time...on my
own
Sometimes I need some time...all alone
Everybody needs some time...
on their own
Don't you know you need some time...all alone

And when your fears subside
And shadows still remain
I know that you can love me
When there's no one left to blame
So never mind the darkness
We still can find a way
'Cause nothin' lasts forever
Even cold November rain

Don't ya think that you need somebody
Don't ya think that you need someone
Everybody needs somebody
You're not the only one
You're not the only one

colaice

Pink是一支极其有才华的乐队，几乎每部作品都可堪称为精品。当年的《迷墙》音乐剧更是相传南京某学生看后跳楼自杀~~~迷墙虽然经典的一塌糊涂，不过我最钟情的却是<Division Bell〉，离别的钟声。

时不时，我会拿出<Division Bell>，听离别的钟声响起，声声敲打在心头，然后收起CD，告诉过去，是时候说再见了。

Division Bells – Pink Floyd


High Hopes – the last song in <Division Bells>
Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young
In a world of magnets and miracles
Our troughts strayed constandly and without boundary
The ringing of the division bell had begin

Along the long road and on down the causeway
Do they still meet there by the cut

There was a ragged band that followed in our footsteps
Running before time took our dreams away
Leaving the myriad small creatures trying to tie us to the ground
To a life consumed by slow decay

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
With friends surrounded
The night of wonder

Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us
To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side
Steps taken forwards but sleepwalking back again
Dragged by the force of some inner tide

At a higher altitude with flag unfuried
We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world

Eneumbered forever by desire and ambition
Theres a hunger still unsatisfied
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon
Though down this road weve been so many time

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder
With friends surrounded
The dawn mist glowing
The water flowing
The endless river

Forever and ever

[ 本帖最后由 colaice 于 2008-10-2 22:12 编辑 ]

colaice

前几天绝代双妖在我动漫游戏音乐帖里献上的歌，为上个世纪90年代英国trip-pop铁三角之一的Massive Attack所创。如果大家看过越狱，多少会对前奏部分有些印象吧。对了，这就是在Michael他们越狱前反复播放的背景音乐，极准确的渲染了那种对未来未知紧张而又不安的节奏。只是越狱里面仅仅重复着播放前奏，并没有延续到后面的演唱部分。或许是因为歌词与这样的气氛并不符合吧。

colaice

说到Massive attack，不得不提到当年同样齐名于trip-pop三角的Portishead，相比之下，我对Portishead是更加情有独钟。如果说他们的第一张专辑《dummy》给人的感觉是一种颓废而糜烂，生的绝望，同名专辑《Portishead》却有如荒野里的幽魂，如泣如诉，以一种欲哭无泪的悲哀。

顺便提一句，连我的老外同事都没听说过portishead这个乐队，可见又多冷门吧。也感慨，看来世界各地，区分好孩子坏孩子的标准原来也是一样的呢．

Only you – from <portishead>

We suffer everyday, what is it for
These crimes of illusion, are fooling us all
And now I am weary and I feel like I do

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

The size of our fight, it's just a dream
We've crushed everything I can see, in this morning selfishly
How we've failed and I feel like I do

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

Now that we've chosen to take all we can
This shade of autumn, a stale bitter end
Years of frustration lay down side by side

And it's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

[ 本帖最后由 colaice 于 2008-10-2 22:11 编辑 ]

colaice

Glory box – from <Dummy>

Cant play???? a new link to try


[ 本帖最后由 colaice 于 2008-10-3 13:11 编辑 ]

colaice

Road – from <Dummy>

colaice

真的是很冷门的东西，算是忘记之前，写一点给自己留着。记得当年还信誓旦旦的跟南大那边梧桐音乐的老板说，我一定会听这些一直听到三，四十岁。可是现在已经再也找不到那个时候的热情了。难道我真的是未老先衰了么～～～

阿Ka

北北喜欢的东西，肯定要顶一下的

[ 本帖最后由 阿狗 于 2008-10-2 23:03 编辑 ]

阿Ka

一定要好好听一下

colaice

孤独和寂寞不同，寂寞形于外，孤独却发自内心。孤独是一堵人自己堆砌的墙，只有自己可以推翻，也只有自己，才是自己命运的主宰。孤独的人，因伤害变得惶恐，从而把自己封闭，沉迷在自己的世界里。孤独的人， 对人生毫无希望，用心筑一堵迷墙，用枷锁把心灵深锁，拒人于千里之外。却不知，迷墙里的世界，带给自己的是更大的伤害。每个人的生命里都有自己建造的墙，成长中的伤痕，也使这座墙日益成长，沉甸甸的压抑令人无法喘息。而生命的真谛，却在于不管经历怎样的挫折和失败后，都可以选择不再沉沦，不再逃避，坚强地面对，勇敢的挣脱心墙的枷锁，才能获得重生，走向海阔天空的世界。

Pink Floyd The Wall - Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb


[ 本帖最后由 colaice 于 2008-10-3 12:59 编辑 ]

dickson

你喜欢大门吗？

colaice

当年什么都听了一点，什么老鹰，医疗，门，绿洲，创世纪，还有好多。好像他们的早期作品很不错，我可能就听过一两首。

很多年过去了，具体的记不大清楚了：）

rb

更喜欢nirvara的smell like teen age girl。

adige

Guns N’ Roses 的Sweet Child O'Mine也不错


[ 本帖最后由 adige 于 2008-10-3 00:18 编辑 ]

steveking

Genesis - Phil Colins -- I can't dance





Eagles - Hotel California

[ 本帖最后由 steveking 于 2008-10-3 08:44 编辑 ]

steveking

非主流在港台或本地的直接定义多半只是指群众的数量，和其专辑的销量，甚至只是一种商业手法的称号而已。形象永远是被边缘化的，是小众的玩意儿。而外界对非主流音乐的印象就是神经亏亏，异类甚至带点不安全，而且大凡带有政治性的，对抗性，颠覆性的，都被本地乐评人归纳为另类音乐。主流音乐才是一个正常人才应该接触。这就是我们时常说的“从众行为”，一种为了争取认同感，使自己处于一个团体里，藉此无数人的投射作用，给自己创造伟大感的幻觉。华裔听众就是其中的多数。商人们就是太懂得此人性的弱点，才造成本地音乐贫乏。

八十年代中期重金属就曾经挤入主流乐坛的浪潮，在各大主流音乐排行榜都有它们的痕迹。可是，也不见得所有的重金属都属于流行的，主流的，艺术重金属(prog metal, art metal)的出现就是最好的证明。然而，当现今的本地华裔听众看到长发披肩的，满身纹身，穿金带环的，就觉得他们很另类，又是一种商业手法，对于整个音乐环境来说，这不只是一个名词上的错误，而是品位和对音乐认知的差异，我们甚至可以说是一种严重的落后。
这种情况造成乐队，或音乐人在考虑音乐取向的时候，不知觉地把群众，销量等次等问题纳入考量之中，耽误了整个音乐历程。一个音乐人应该把精神放在“音乐创作”上，而不是把时间都浪费在“品牌创造”。音乐人在如此扭曲的大环境里头，渐渐就会掉入主流与另类音乐的两极化，那要达到如欧美音乐如此的百花盛放，就显得更遥遥无期。

反观欧美对非主流音乐的定义却专注在音乐的独特性，创新手法，呈现的方式，更深入些的会研讨许多哲理思想，音乐理论，艺术形态，在音乐领域里，另类音乐能得到较高的定位，尽管如此，它却不会和主流音乐之间出现太大的对立，因为欧美对音乐掌握成熟，也能公平地对待每一种音乐类型，加上国外群众有较高的消化与接纳的能力，所以每一种音乐类型都有它们的生存空间。那主流与非主流的正确定义只是在于用什么样的态度与精神去对待音乐，而不是多人支持的就是主流，没人欣赏的就是非主流…….

本文来源于麦田音乐网 http://www.mtyyw.com

迷失@森林

重金属
只听过PAIN的

华丽丽的那个谁

涅磐的那个主唱帅死了。。。
俺也听这些，话说，我发现每盒摇滚专辑里的抒情歌都超级超级好听。。

jasonliu234

nirvana 很热门，被视为非主流？

lz的贴的那个where did you sleep last night，是unplugged MTV in New York 虽然不是nirvana原唱，但喜欢他的沙哑的声嘶力竭，绝望中的无奈。

[ 本帖最后由 jasonliu234 于 2008-10-3 11:05 编辑 ]

原来

前几个在我们宿舍是流行音乐
因为宿舍有搞乐队的...

华丽丽的那个谁

我很喜欢那个aerosmith唱的i don't want to miss a thing ~

[ 本帖最后由 华丽丽的那个谁 于 2008-10-3 11:02 编辑 ]

colaice

Thanks mates for sharing :) glad to know that I am not alone

I added a song from <wall> ,the greatest music movie, please see Level 12#

原来

scorpions 的always somewhere ，柔情金属的最爱

zhengtao

原帖由 colaice 于 2008-10-2 22:43 发表
真的是很冷门的东西，算是忘记之前，写一点给自己留着。记得当年还信誓旦旦的跟南大那边梧桐音乐的老板说，我一定会听这些一直听到三，四十岁。可是现在已经再也找不到那个时候的热情了。难道我真的是未老先衰了么～ ...

it's time to move on。
是时候试一下其他风格，其他乐手的音乐了。之前的经典听得多了，自然就有点腻了。
有些不错的独立音乐人，比如 Damien Rice， Ashram等都不错。
喜欢重一点听 Dream Theater，喜欢暗一点以及技术含量高的试试 Chamber。
音乐怎么也听不完，就看你有没有时间了。这是个奢侈品。

colaice

原帖由 zhengtao 于 2008-10-3 20:15 发表


it's time to move on。
是时候试一下其他风格，其他乐手的音乐了。之前的经典听得多了，自然就有点腻了。
有些不错的独立音乐人，比如 Damien Rice， Ashram等都不错。
喜欢重一点听 Dream Theater，喜欢暗一 ...

谢谢：）
音乐还真是奢侈品，我就是吝啬，吝啬到不愿意接受新的东西，不愿意再付出一点点的热情，而只宁愿守着曾经的钟爱，把回忆当作一种财富

zhengtao

原帖由 colaice 于 2008-10-3 20:32 发表



谢谢：）
音乐还真是奢侈品，我就是吝啬，吝啬到不愿意接受新的东西，不愿意再付出一点点的热情，而只宁愿守着曾经的钟爱，把回忆当作一种财富

完全同意，回忆就是财富。
我到现在还听许巍的《在别处》呢。估计会一直听到老死。百年的经典阿！
不过还是需要给小辈们展示的机会的。有很多新人新专辑，很不错。回归到了音乐本身的创作，而不是一昧地流行，跟风。尤其是现在许多的独立音乐人，不管是国内的还是国外的，都是值得尝试的。

coolioo

太主流了，等回来我给你上点真正的非主流，你放狗都找不到  

mileswei2006

爱听重金属的女生不多.

而且还是在南京上学的故人.

加分了.