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CPA117-崩溃!!! [复制链接]

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我觉得自己书还没看透 所以看case没感觉 可是有前辈说不用啃书本 要仔细看Case

我很迷茫
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原帖由 jennyhao 于 2010-10-11 18:32 发表
大家集思广益,我会把整理的notes发上来讨论。

鞋子是灌水穿上的~~~~~~~~~~

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原帖由 orioleの马甲 于 2010-10-11 19:01 发表
我觉得自己书还没看透 所以看case没感觉 可是有前辈说不用啃书本 要仔细看Case

我很迷茫

我刚开始看书,今天才收到pre-seen paper.
case一定要看得,尤其是最大的那个。
周末开始总结答案,大家互相提问回答

同志们加油!~

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有一种恐惧来自于提不出问题 不知道有人又同感瓦

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准备从第二个case开始分析, 但是case没有相关的growth的表格,不像study guide 里的case, 感觉比较困惑

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原帖由 sunnyocean 于 2010-10-11 19:55 发表
准备从第二个case开始分析, 但是case没有相关的growth的表格,不像study guide 里的case, 感觉比较困惑



或许考试时候给出的 additional infor 会跟这个相关
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正在嘗試整理一下關於 Jetstar case 的資料...

INTHEBLACK Blue sky man By Jackie Blondell

Airlines have had a tough decade.
- September 11 attack in 2001
- SARS outbreak in 2003
- soaring fuel prices in 2004
- the global financial crisis exploded in 2008
= with the number of premium air passengers falling by 25 % as a result.

=>budget airlines is a light at the end of the tunnel

Known in the aviation industry
low-cost carriers, no-frills approach has seen them thrive
while older style, full-service airlines have taken some heavy blows.
- Japan Airlines, Asia’s oldest full service airline, declared bankruptcy.
- Tiger Airlines announced its initial public offering
- Australia’s Jetstar and Malaysia-based AirAsia announced the first alliance between

two low-cost carriers

Jetstar
- the successful offshoot of Qantas
- record growth since its launch in 2004.
- CEO Bruce Buchanan predicted that passenger revenue will increase from around A$2.3

previous year to A$2.6 billion in the 12 mths to 30/6/2010

AirAsia
- voted best low-cost airline in the world in last year's prestigious Skytrax awards
– dominates in the South-East Asian market.

Jetstar and AirAsia
- two largest low-cost airlines (in revenue terms) in the Asia Pacific.
- Together they earned nearly A$3 billion in 2009.
- Analysts have called the alliance a 'killer proposition',
1. hundreds of millions of dollars will be saved through the joint purchase of

aircraft
2. the sharing of ground operations and aircraft parts.
- CEO Bruce Buchanan says:
1. Jetstar is the number one in terms of revenue and RPKs [revenue passenger kilometres]
2. AirAsia’s the number one in terms of passengers.
3. Our long-haul network’s a lot bigger. But we are both very profitable and growing much faster than the competition.

Other examples
Having two budget carriers dominating a market is nothing new:
- Ryanair and Flybe dominate Europe
- Southwest and JetBlue are the major players in North America.

Buchanan says:
- predicts "Asia as deregulating and see a strong opportunity there"
- "just like when North America and Europe deregulated,
  similar sort of explosion in services and opportunity in South-East Asia
Signs that Asia market is starting to open up. "
e.g. Recently the lucrative Kuala Lumpur to Singapore route was liberated after decades of protectionism.
- Cost is a key dynamic in the relationship
- “The virtuous circle for our business is:
  lower costs lead to lower fares ->
  generates more passengers travelling->
  leads to lower costs."
- If you can provide something in that business model that actually provides a step-change, you can provide a step-change in growth as well.”

Professor Murali Chandrashekaran says:
from the Australian School of Business researches the airline industry, most recently concen­trating on customer satisfaction in the US market.
1. [Jetstar/AirAsia] alliance is going to make a meaningful difference.
- The Asian market is really grow­ing compared with the stagnant markets in North

America and Europe
2. The alliance can make big cost savings
- by sharing the ground staff and operations. The way for low-cost carriers to save

costs is to get the plane in and out of the gate as fast as possible.
.
.
.

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Questions for case 1
1. Primary purpose of this strategic alliance
2. Would this alliance would improve Jetstar' competitive position
3. Using Ansoff' product/market matrix, classify the alliance into to the appropriate quadrant.
4. Using Rumelt's criteria for evaluating and make an assessment of this strategic alliance.
仅供参考讨论

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今天刚收到

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听朋友说2009年第一学期的也是考了巧克力这个case,考过的前辈们,不知可否上传一些note。

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原帖由 MARCHBABY 于 2010-10-11 12:32 发表
Could someone please please please upload two cases? i have not yet received them, nerverous....
Thanks a lot :)



从明天开始,网上的my online learning里就会贴出来,如果你还是没有,我会传一份给你。

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原帖由 orioleの马甲 于 2010-10-11 20:22 发表



或许考试时候给出的 additional infor 会跟这个相关

我也觉得. 这门课好难啊, 我考CPA从来没有这么痛苦过
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對...感覺沒什把握。

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感觉没什么感觉

一直看到前辈们说要回答问题, 可是问题是什么呢

救命啊

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和我的想法一样啊,握手握手!!

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要用到什么model么???

我试图套TEMPLES 套不上啊

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終於收到了。現在才知道Jetstar/AirAsia的篇幅是那麼的少。
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刚刚在study guide上找到一些跟case相关的东东,不知道有用没,大家看一下哈
1. Module 2,Page 54, Figure 2.15 Eight forces for the global airline industry
2. Module2, Example 2.7 (page 59)& 2.9(page 67), 好像第二个case就是从这里面出的
3. Module 3, page 54, Question 3.14, 是关于Jetstar SWOT analysis

看的很是郁闷啊

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原帖由 yantony 于 2010-10-11 20:46 发表
Questions for case 1
1. Primary purpose of this strategic alliance
2. Would this alliance would improve Jetstar' competitive position
3. Using Ansoff' product/market matrix, classify the alliance into ...



是不是要用到P 4.50的内容 分析advantage and disadvantage
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另外我认为要用p3.24的那个example 3.9 是讲virgin blue的low cost airline.让你确认企业用的是哪种generic strategy.

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16到选择题 根case  有关系么

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case1 涉及的model or topic

1. 5 Qs approach to analyse the business strategy

2.Ansoff product/market matrix-market penetration to get economics of scale, cost saving

3.Porter's generic strategies-low cost

4.Rumelt's criteria for evaluating strategy
-internal consistency; external consistency;feasible;competitive advantage

5. mode of entry-strategic alliance

以上每一个,  好像case 1 里都能找到答案也。。。。

还有其它角度吗?欢迎补充 :)
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我想到有

Strategic groups in aviation industry
- Full-service airlines
- Low-cost airlines

Key  basis for competition

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原帖由 orioleの马甲 于 2010-10-11 22:42 发表
16到选择题 根case  有关系么


16道选择题都是关于pre-seen case的。

绿色的资料有提到。

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整理好了。我想這會比較容易將有用的point分到各問題當中,然後再想答案。而且這樣沒那麼容易遺漏。

大家看看有沒有幫助。

另外 pre-seen information 只是節錄了Intheblack 那篇 passage 其中一段...不知那些篇幅有沒有用的呢?


Blue sky man

Airlines have had a tough decade.
- September 11 attack in 2001
- SARS outbreak in 2003
- soaring fuel prices in 2004
- the global financial crisis exploded in 2008
= with the number of premium air passengers falling by 25 % as a result.

=>budget airlines is a light at the end of the tunnel

Known in the aviation industry
low-cost carriers, no-frills approach has seen them thrive
while older style, full-service airlines have taken some heavy blows.
- Japan Airlines, Asia’s oldest full service airline, declared bankruptcy.
- Tiger Airlines announced its initial public offering
- Australia’s Jetstar and Malaysia-based AirAsia announced the first alliance between two low-cost carriers

Jetstar
- the successful offshoot of Qantas
- record growth since its launch in 2004.
- CEO Bruce Buchanan predicted that passenger revenue will increase from around A$2.3 previous year to A$2.6 billion in the 12 mths to 30/6/2010

AirAsia
- voted best low-cost airline in the world in last year's prestigious Skytrax awards
– dominates in the South-East Asian market.

Jetstar and AirAsia
- two largest low-cost airlines (in revenue terms) in the Asia Pacific.
- Together they earned nearly A$3 billion in 2009.
- Analysts have called the alliance a 'killer proposition',
1. hundreds of millions of dollars will be saved through the joint purchase of aircraft
2. the sharing of ground operations and aircraft parts.
- CEO Bruce Buchanan says:
1. Jetstar is the number one in terms of revenue and RPKs [revenue passenger kilometres]
2. AirAsia’s the number one in terms of passengers.
3. Our long-haul network’s a lot bigger. But we are both very profitable and growing much faster than the competition.

Other examples
Having two budget carriers dominating a market is nothing new:
- Ryanair and Flybe dominate Europe
- Southwest and JetBlue are the major players in North America.

Buchanan says:
- predicts "Asia as deregulating and see a strong opportunity there"
- "just like when North America and Europe deregulated, similar sort of explosion in services and opportunity in South-East Asia Signs that Asia market is starting to open up. "
e.g. Recently the lucrative Kuala Lumpur to Singapore route was liberated after decades of protectionism.
- Cost is a key dynamic in the relationship
- “The virtuous circle for our business is:
  lower costs lead to lower fares ->
  generates more passengers travelling->
  leads to lower costs."
- "If you can provide something in that business model that actually provides a step-change, you can provide a step-change in growth as well.”

Professor Murali Chandrashekaran says:
1. Full-service airlines
from the Australian School of Business researches the airline industry, most recently concentrating on customer satisfaction in the US market.
2. Alliance is going to make a meaningful difference.
- The Asian market is really grow ing compared with the stagnant markets in North America and Europe
3. The alliance can make big cost savings
- by sharing the ground staff and operations. The way for low-cost carriers to save costs is to get the plane in and out of the gate as fast as possible.

Aircraft design
- alliance was formally announced on 6 January this year
- work has progressed to developing cooperative arrangements for passenger handling at over-lapping airports in Australia and Asia.
- The first procurement tender for engineering is in the works
- the alliance partners have started discussions with the aircraft manufacturers on appropriate aircraft design for low-cost carriers where the routes cover large distances over water.
- In the past.. Influencing aircraft design has traditionally been the domain of the full-service carriers as it’s been seen as a valuable way to drive their product proposition.
- Now.. low-cost carriers are getting in on the act."
Buchanan: "If you can influence the air-craft design you can: "
- "make quite an impact on the economics of the business"
- "Once the design is set it drives a lot of the constraints in the business"
- "including the way you operate your turnaround times and passenger density on an aircraft"
- "including fuel efficiency and engineering requirements if a whole raft of things is set”

Considerations (key factor)
- Jetstar and AirAsia already run the same aircraft type
and while this was a key factor in the moves towards an alliance

Other considerations
Jetstar’s CEO "it certainly wasn’t the only consideration. We looked at every other carrier in the region."
AirAsia gets close to Jetstar in terms of:
- growth rate,
- scale,
- size,
- business model profitability,
- very similar structure in terms of the specifications of both businesses,
- very similar business models,
- very similar culturally

Culture is critical
For Buchanan, culture is critical.
- “If you don’t have a culture focused on driving costs out and airfares down as well as looking for growth,"
- it’s very hard to get alignment on joint projects, because you just come at it from such different perspectives."
- When you look at alliances involving full-service carriers they are focused on revenue opportunities."
- We looked at those opportunities but they introduce complexity into the business and that adds costs.

Focus - taking out costs
Buchanan: “We thought the first low-cost carrier alliance should focus on taking out costs."
- "It should be an operational alliance where we share ideas, synergy, procurement, specifications and assets. These are low-hanging fruit, they are easy for us to go after"

Major players know each other well
- AirAsia and Jetstar share a similar heritage and the major players know each other well.
- Conor McCarthy, Ryanair’s head of operations in the 1990s, helped start Jetstar.
- He is also a shareholder and board director of AirAsia.
- AirAsia’s CEO and founder,
- the ebullient accountant turned entrepreneur Tony Fernandes, has known former Qantas CEO Geoff Dixon and current incumbent Alan Joyce for many years.
- But there’s no full equity merger in the wings; both sides says the partnership purely operational."

The Airline industry is complex
in terms of:
- "cross-border ownership laws"
- "Asia’s not at a North American or European stage in terms of a common single market"
- “Rather than waiting for governments and other parties to create a market environment that would allow that,"
=>"we just want to get on and seek the opportunities that are accessible at the moment."



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CPA online 里已经有case 了,如果,还没有收到case 的童鞋们可以去download。 那位斑主顶置个cpa 117的讨论帖吧!

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原帖由 yantony 于 2010-10-11 20:46 发表
Questions for case 1
1. Primary purpose of this strategic alliance
2. Would this alliance would improve Jetstar' competitive position
3. Using Ansoff' product/market matrix, classify the alliance into ...



看第一遍的时候,我也就觉得是这些角度,主要是围绕strategic alliance 这个option 做文章

另一个角度,觉得可能是culture issue,特别是implementation的时候。

SWOT和TEMPLES,感觉可能性不大,可分析的信息太少,不过有可能在选择题中考

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chocolate case,growth and profitability给的点比较少

重点是本身biz strategy 给的太多信息,有goals ,values,5Q approach考的应该是比较多了,分析 strategic capabilities.不是很肯定 stakeholders analysis.

然后又给出了很多的development options(pre-seen information 到此就结束了),应该是用Ansoff development matrix,new product and market options evaluation ,portfolio considerations,Rumelt's evaluation criteria

至于没有给出的信息,估计是和 module 6 有关,

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I'm thinking the exam may question about how Virgin Blue's strategy change when the 2 low-cost airlines merge.

What do you guy's think?

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原帖由 jennyhao 于 2010-10-12 02:19 发表


16道选择题都是关于pre-seen case的。

绿色的资料有提到。


书上说的是based on the pre-seen case and on the module materials.
而且说了会明确标出与case有关的选择题

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