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[生意经营] 小生意现在好难啊,现在用人成本太高了,一年下来都是员工吃肉老板喝汤。 [复制链接]

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kkknk 发表于 2019-12-5 11:29
10年前通利已经是按照法定工资给的,养老金,税都是正常交的。

周日1.5倍工资,周六1.25倍,晚上7点之后1.25倍工资?
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WACT 发表于 2019-12-5 11:38
周六1.25倍,周末1.5倍,晚上超过7点好像也是1.25倍。
那些华人超市,哪个能给到法定工资? ...


六点以后算晚班FULL PART TIME 25%, CASUAL 35%

周六目前CASUAL是45%

周日目前FULL PART TIME是65%, casual 是75%。

希望被这些店剥削的朋友们能搞清楚自己少拿了多少钱,拿小本本记下来,记得辞职时候讨债。


(下面数据是General Retail Industry Award 2010,基本上在便利店工作的没有签合同的朋友们如果要追债,应该采用这个AWARD的规定)

29.4 Penalty payments

(a) Evening work Monday to Friday—full-time or part-time employee

[29.4(a) renamed and substituted by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

A penalty payment of an additional 25% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee after 6.00 pm.

(b) Evening work Monday to Friday—casual employee

[New 29.4(b) inserted by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

(i) From 1 November 2018 to 30 September 2019

A penalty payment of an additional 30% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee after 6.00 pm (inclusive of the casual loading).

(ii) From 1 October 2019 to 29 February 2020

A penalty payment of an additional 35% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee after 6.00 pm (inclusive of the casual loading).

(iii) From 1 March 2020 to 30 September 2020

A penalty payment of an additional 40% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee after 6.00 pm (inclusive of the casual loading).

(iv) From 1 October 2020 to 28 February 2021

A penalty payment of an additional 45% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee after 6.00 pm (inclusive of the casual loading).

(v) From 1 March 2021

A penalty payment of an additional 50% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee after 6.00 pm (inclusive of the casual loading).

(c) Saturday work—full-time or part-time employee

[29.4(b) substituted by PR540640;29.4(b) renumbered as 29.4(c),renamed and substituted by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

A penalty payment of an additional 25% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee on a Saturday.

(d) Saturday work—casual employee

[New 29.4(d) inserted by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

(i) From 1 November 2018 to 30 September 2019

A penalty payment of an additional 40% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee on a Saturday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(ii) From 1 October 2019 to 29 February 2020

A penalty payment of an additional 45% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee on a Saturday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(iii) From 1 March 2020

A penalty payment of an additional 50% loading will apply for ordinary hours worked by a casual employee on a Saturday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(e) Sunday work

[28.4(c) varied by PR992724;29.4(c) substituted by PR593953 ppc 01 July 2017;29.4(d) renumbered as 29.4(e) by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

(i) From 1 July 2017 to 30 June 2018

A penalty payment of an additional 95% loading will apply for all hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee on a Sunday. A penalty payment of an additional 95% loading will apply for all hours worked by a casual employee on a Sunday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(ii) From 1 July 2018 to 30 June 2019

A penalty payment of an additional 80% loading will apply for all hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee on a Sunday. A penalty payment of an additional 85% loading will apply for all hours worked by a casual employee on a Sunday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(iii) From 1 July 2019 to 30 June 2020

A penalty payment of an additional 65% loading will apply for all hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee on a Sunday. A penalty payment of an additional 75% loading will apply for all hours worked by a casual employee on a Sunday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(iv) From 1 July 2020

A penalty payment of an additional 50% loading will apply for all hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee on a Sunday. A penalty payment of an additional 75% loading will apply for all hours worked by a casual employee on a Sunday (inclusive of the casual loading).

(f) Public holidays

[29.4(d) substituted by PR539248 ppc 01Aug13;29.4(d) renumbered as 29.4(f) by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

[29.4(d)(i) substituted by PR593953 ppc 01Jul17;29.4(f)(i) varied by PR701872 ppc 01Nov18]

(i) Work on a public holiday must be compensated by payment of an additional 125% loading for all hours worked by a full-time or part-time employee. A penalty payment of an additional 150% loading will apply for all hours worked by a casual employee (inclusive of the casual loading).

(ii) Provided that by mutual agreement of the employee and the employer,the employee (other than a casual) may be compensated for a particular public holiday by either:

(A) An equivalent day or equivalent time off instead without loss of pay. The time off must be taken within four weeks of the public holiday occurring,or it shall be paid out;or

(B) An additional day or equivalent time as annual leave.

(iii) The employee and employer are entitled to a fresh choice of payment or time off by agreement on each occasion work is performed on a public holiday.

(iv) If no agreement can be reached on the method of compensation,the default arrangement shall be as per clause 29.4(f)(i).

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wolf123 发表于 2019-12-5 11:48
六点以后算晚班FULL PART TIME 25%, CASUAL 35%

周六目前CASUAL是45%

华人超市要按照这个价格给工资,都破产好几回了
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wolf123 发表于 2019-12-5 11:48
六点以后算晚班FULL PART TIME 25%, CASUAL 35%

周六目前CASUAL是45%

你这贴子把很多老板吓尿了

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WACT 发表于 2019-12-5 12:00
华人超市要按照这个价格给工资,都破产好几回了


老板哭穷是常态,但是老板喝汤员工吃肉的说法,我只能呵呵。

固然可能按照这个价格给工资,可能难以经营,这是老板该考虑的事,我只是给打工的出主意。我十年前在711打工半年,10块钱一小时,还要做晚班,怨念太深了,只恨自己没留存证据。老板当年也会哭穷,也会说总公司各种方式坑他钱,我也是得了斯德哥尔摩综合征,还挺理解老板的,但是回想起来,他穷个毛线球,骗傻小子而已。

在超市便利店这种地方工作,是很赤裸裸的金钱换工作,所谓锻炼,提升的价值是很有限的,也不用太多的考虑感情因素。所以我的建议其实广大群友如果有在这些地方打工的可以参考下。

也没有什么特别的711在前好多年就出过被人给告了,然后有集体涨工资的情况。我不清楚现在他们的工资是否真实合法,但是没看见周围711倒闭嘛。(我那时候工资是总公司发,但是虚假工时信息是由老板发给总公司的,相信总公司并非不知情,我也相信总公司是按照正确的小时工资虚假的工时在支付,老板自己用其他人的名字冒领部分工资,因为24小时便利店不可能每天员工只拿12小时工资,这就太假了,而这些无论是打了折扣的员工工资,或者是虚假的工资,都进入了711店的成本,我不相信那些店账面去除了合法工资额后都是负的利润)

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WACT 发表于 2019-12-5 12:45
周日1.5倍工资,周六1.25倍,晚上7点之后1.25倍工资?

十年前好像只有节假日是两倍pay,现在具体怎么付不清楚,实话实说这已经算很不错了,如果真的按你说的这个付钱方法老板喝西北风吧,华人超市的利润低的可怜。
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这帖子典型既要做又要立

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jasonskanky 发表于 2019-12-5 12:19
这帖子典型既要做又要立


就楼主的文字而言,我不赞同你的看法。

虽然楼主没有明说,但是语句里暗含的意思是他给了员工带薪假期,合法工资,还有周末的额外加钱。然后很艰难。

当然这个猜测可能不合理

第一,楼主可能没有经营小生意,
第二,楼主经营了,可能也选择了冒险少给钱。

但是就楼主发的贴本身,以我自己的理解能力,并不是这样。你的猜测有一点无端,虽然无端不代表你的猜测不能是真的,楼主明明没给够钱,但是依然这么说也并非完全不符合一个老板的立场。

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减少员工工资固然可以提高利润,但这会降低员工效率,是个恶性循环。这样的生意是个坏生意,老板是个坏老板。

好的生意好的老板应该能够不断提高员工工资,从而提高效率来增加利润。

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wolf123 发表于 2019-12-5 13:31
就楼主的文字而言,我不赞同你的看法。

虽然楼主没有明说,但是语句里暗含的意思是他给了员工带薪假期, ...

可能是来自零售行业的
The Good The Bad and The Ugly, The Spirits of Us By Nature

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henda 发表于 2019-12-5 11:05
我的厨师刚落地,给1100一个礼拜,super on top, 做了三个礼拜他说要1800一个礼拜,因为家里欠了赌债,如果 ...

现在正派中餐的厨师工资是很高,1800要有点水平但1500-1600很普通,房租又贵,知道有的大餐馆看上去很气派生意也过得去,实际上一年亏几十万在苦熬租约
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现在ATO搞的Single Touch Payroll好麻烦,不知道会不会用来查小生意

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wolf123 发表于 2019-12-5 12:12
老板哭穷是常态,但是老板喝汤员工吃肉的说法,我只能呵呵。

固然可能按照这个价格给工资,可能难以经营 ...

我所知道的當時7-11爆出薪資問題
總公司有拿錢出來補貼店家 因為他們很明白如果店家支付合理薪資
很多店家準備關門了
好的店家不少 但是很多不好的店家都是老闆自己在看店面
所以那一陣子很多7-11都在求售
你說我裝

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这个国家还能有小生意存活就是一个奇迹