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悉尼公寓楼里不许搞airbnb 吗? [复制链接]

发表于 2017-10-20 01:09 |显示全部楼层
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朋友说, 悉尼公寓楼里政府不许搞airbnb, 是真的吗?
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发表于 2017-10-20 05:26 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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可以搞 来个十几套

发表于 2017-10-20 08:15 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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看新闻版那个,不就是悉尼大桥景儿的apartment 客厅支帐篷出租一晚上55嘛。

发表于 2017-10-20 08:41 |显示全部楼层
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部分公寓楼的电梯里,有明确说明不允许短租和Airbnb。

发表于 2017-10-20 08:44 |显示全部楼层
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要看strata的by-law,有些公寓变相禁止搞airbnb。议会目前并没有公文立法明令禁止。

发表于 2017-10-20 08:46 来自手机 |显示全部楼层
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据说有私人按摩院,不做airbnb 当老鸨
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发表于 2017-10-20 09:07 |显示全部楼层
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xabsinthex 发表于 2017-10-20 08:44
要看strata的by-law,有些公寓变相禁止搞airbnb。议会目前并没有公文立法明令禁止。 ...


一幢楼的bylaw刚刚被court废掉,除了council,业主委员会无权拒绝短租


The only way short-term letting can be restricted is by Council planning regulations.

This proposition has been backed up by the recent NCAT decision of Estens v Owners Corporation SP 11825.

Peta Estens lived in a unit in Woollahra and sought to invalidate a by-law on the basis that the Owners Corporation did not have power to make it. This particular strata plan comprised only five residential lots, all with an equal unit entitlement. An Extraordinary General Meeting was held on 16 February 2017 and passed (by way of a special resolution) a by law that was designed to prohibit short term letting of lots. Four owners were present at the meeting and three were noted to be in favour of the special by-law. Ms Estens was the dissenting owner and one owner was unfinancial.

The other owners had complained that Airbnb guests of Ms Estens’ were using the communal washing machine and this was causing them disruption of their peace and enjoyment. One owner also claimed that men were sitting on the deck above her unit relaxing with a beer and she felt uncomfortable as they were strangers and apparently watching her.

Ms Estens had originally rented her unit through Airbnb whilst she was travelling interstate and overseas and stated that over a 12 month period, she had only received two complaints regarding misuse of the washing machine in the communal laundry. As a result of these complaints, she had changed her rules to prohibit pets and limit use of the washing machines. She said that she was very selective with her guests.

The Strata Manager provided submissions on behalf of the Owners Corporation and referred to section 136 of the Act relating to the making of by-laws for the management, administration, control or use and enjoyment of lots. He suggested that luggage was continuously moved in and out of the apartment and common areas, leading to a higher rate of wear and tear. He also referred to the obligations of owners under section 258 of the Act to notify the scheme in relation to a change in tenancy but there was no evidence to suggest that this section had not been complied with.

Ms Estens relied on section 139 of the Act dealing with unjust by-laws. This section states that a by-law must not be harsh, unconscionable or oppressive or capable of operating to prohibit or restrict the devolution of a lot or a transfer, lease, mortgage or other dealing relating to a lot.

Section 150 of the Act states that the Tribunal may declare a by-law invalid if the Tribunal considers the Owners Corporation did not have the power to make the by-law or that the by-law is harsh, unconscionable or oppressive. Ms Estens contended that Airbnb letting is a “lease” within the meaning of section 139 of the Act.
The Tribunal Decision

The Tribunal was satisfied that the manner in which the Airbnb tenancy devolved by the landlord was sufficient to constitute a tenancy or lease with a specific commencement date and specific end date.

During that time, the tenant had exclusive use of the property and the arrangement is properly described as a lease rather than a licence. The Tribunal Member also went on to say that it was likely that a licence would also be covered in the use of the word “devolution” in any event.

Accordingly, the Tribunal was satisfied that the by-law as passed was invalid because the Owners Corporation had no power to pass that by-law by reason of the operation of section 139(2) of the Act.






:)

发表于 2017-10-20 09:46 |显示全部楼层
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Poweregg 发表于 2017-10-20 09:07
一幢楼的bylaw刚刚被court废掉,除了council,业主委员会无权拒绝短租

注意我的原话 - “变相”。by-law当然不能直白地限缩业主对自己的产权行使合法权利,但可以治安、养护等理由对门禁、噪音、扰民等具体事项进行更严格地规范,从而达到变相阻碍业主做airbnb的目的。

发表于 2017-10-20 11:15 |显示全部楼层
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那就是说要看自己居住的大楼是否允许, 而目前还不是一个普遍的规则?

我在airbnb上查,悉尼还是有很多公寓里的airbnb在营业?

发表于 2017-10-20 11:51 |显示全部楼层
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Strata无权干涉业主的短期租赁行为,之前新闻有说的

发表于 2017-10-20 13:08 |显示全部楼层
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话是这么说,很多障碍,让你很难做
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发表于 2017-10-21 06:06 |显示全部楼层
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搞airbnb真的这么赚钱吗?
不怕租了给不好的人房子也给破坏或弄脏吗?

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发表于 2017-10-27 15:34 |显示全部楼层
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我们楼里有一个搞的, 我们其她住客,正在找办法把她赶出去,因为她是房客,不是房东

发表于 2017-10-27 19:28 |显示全部楼层
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楼主找不到留学生 开始考虑Airbnb了?

发表于 2017-10-29 19:41 |显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 蓝精灵 于 2017-10-29 19:42 编辑

我本来想申请个airbnb的账户方便以后出去玩的时候租房用,可是发现需要提供很多私人的信息,包括照片和护照或驾照,立马就放弃,我宁愿用回booking.com。 我想问问大家对提供这些私人资料是一点顾忌都没有吗?

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