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万圣节对孩子的意义 [复制链接]

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做父母的们先好好了解一下这个节日的起源和真正的意义再决定让不让孩子参加。以前他们真的是拿孩子来当活祭献祭的。
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不喜欢,不参与

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学习了,我对西方这些节日都没研究,就知道凑热闹,前年有次跟我老公讨论起圣诞节的时候,就记得是个生日,竟然脱口而出是圣诞老人的生日,老公快笑尿了

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小朋友熱鬧熱鬧,開心就好~

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十月卅一日晚上开始的是万鬼节(Halloween)的前夕,真正的万鬼节也是十一月一日,万圣节夜(前夕)称之为 HallowEvening或 Holy Evening.神圣之夜的意思,谁知却被人借把两个英文单字连在一起成了今日的Halloween。

因为是鬼节,所以要「正名」为万「鬼」节,有别于真正的万「圣」节。因为它是欢庆死亡、荣耀魔鬼、邪灵的日子。

黑暗的背后

    「对巫师们而言万鬼节是最大的庆典,是死亡的节期,代表了巫师年度的结束与开始,因为冬天即将来临,冬天是一切死亡与毁灭的象征。在这段期间,黑暗势力被释放,所有的邪灵都跑出来在世上游荡,通常被人们认为是最容易与灵相通的时期。」(Halloween and Satanism, P. Phillips and J.H. Robie, 1987, p. 146).「另有一个宗教团体认真度过万鬼节的,就是撒旦教。撒旦教徒认为万鬼节让他们能更肆无忌惮地直接颂赞死亡与魔鬼,他们把它当作是极为重要的两个节日之一,其间所做的撒旦教式献祭的恐怖与残忍简直无法形容。(Like Lambs To The Slaughter, Johanna Michaelsen, 1989, p.190).

血祭的罪行

    一共有连续六个星期的血祭仪式,包括从宰杀小动物,像是小鸟或是猫,跟着的几个星期逐渐开始献祭较大的动物,像是山羊甚至屠杀幼婴。最后那个星期晚上的高潮是在献祭仪式中,血祭一个孩子或是一位成年女性。(Ibid, p.192)有一位现今已经归主的撒旦教大祭司就见证这件事。并且提及他小时就与一位女婴被选中,他们一起在撒旦教的细心调教下长大。当他十八岁那年的万鬼节被用血祭膏立为大祭司,被血祭的祭牲是一位少女,就是与他一同长大的那个女婴。还有些邪教献祭的幼婴,是女教徒刻意在该年为此目的怀孕的,在家生产后也不去申报出生证明,以致当警方在某些偏远地区发现幼婴的骨骸与尿布等物件时,完全无法查知骨骸的归属。魔鬼邪恶的力量已经将人性扭曲到如此的地步,真是可怕与可恶。

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发表于 2016-10-31 14:07 |显示全部楼层
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hilltop-bear 发表于 2016-10-31 14:19
这个鬼怪节,兴起是美国。商业气息很浓,内涵确实如上面的朋友说的,不感苟同。基督教天主教和伊斯兰教的 ...


麻烦你查看一下wiki, 起源是来自于苏格兰。。 被美国人玩坏就这几年,那几部恐怖电影拍的。。

首先这个是is of Christian origin. 其次这个是the word "Hallowe'en" means "hallowed evening" or "holy evening  来自于
It comes from a Scottish term for All Hallows' Eve (the evening before All Hallows' Day).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
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不喜欢这个节。也不会带孩子去要糖。

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冷水泡茶 发表于 2016-10-31 14:33
做父母的们先好好了解一下这个节日的起源和真正的意义再决定让不让孩子参加。以前他们真的是拿孩子来当活祭 ...

如此耸人听闻,请问出处?

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血腥装扮好像是从walking dead开始流行的,以前看美剧印象就是trick or treat的孩子都打扮成一个有意义或是喜欢的角色,最多是扮成拿着镰刀的鬼,没有这几年搞的这么血淋林的。
我们幼儿园发信也是鼓励大家都装扮一下,但是不要搞的太吓人,因为以前有吓到孩子的个例。

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准备好糖果吧,不要扫了孩子们的兴!

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这件事本来就是玩的。 没必要这么上纲上线。。 还什么美国文化什么。仔细看看根本就是苏格兰的节日。后来流传的北美。。 被一些好莱坞片商给用恐怖片给发扬光大了而已。 看看怎么流传到北美的
苏格兰和爱尔兰大批移民带去的

It was not until mass Irish and Scottish immigration in the 19th century that Halloween became a major holiday in North America

如果偏偏要拿宗教来说事。wiki上的说法。犹太教/伊斯兰/印度教对这个节日有异议。 不主张庆祝。 和基督教还有天主教有毛关系啊

Analogous celebrations and perspectives
Judaism
According to Alfred J. Kolatch in the Second Jewish Book of Why, in Judaism, Halloween is not permitted by Jewish Halakha because it violates Leviticus 18:3 which forbids Jews from partaking in gentile customs. Many Jews observe Yizkor, which is equivalent to the observance of Allhallowtide in Christianity, as prayers are said for both "martyrs and for one's own family."[203] Nevertheless, many American Jews celebrate Halloween, disconnected from its Christian origins.[204] Reform Rabbi Jeffrey Goldwasser has said that "There is no religious reason why contemporary Jews should not celebrate Halloween" while Orthodox Rabbi Michael Broyde has argued against Jews observing the holiday.[205] Jews do have the Purim holiday, where the children dress up in costumes to celebrate.[206]

Islam
Sheikh Idris Palmer, author of A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam, has argued that Muslims should not participate in Halloween, stating that "participation in Halloween is worse than participation in Christmas, Easter, ... it is more sinful than congratulating the Christians for their prostration to the crucifix".[207] Javed Memon, a Muslim writer, has disagreed, saying that his "daughter dressing up like a British telephone booth will not destroy her faith as a Muslim".[208]

Hinduism
Most Hindus do not observe All Hallows' Eve, instead they remember the dead during the festival of Pitru Paksha, during which Hindus pay homage to and perform a ceremony "to keep the souls of their ancestors at rest." It is celebrated in the Hindu month of Bhadrapada, usually in mid-September.[209] The celebration of the Hindu festival Diwali sometimes conflicts with the date of Halloween; but some Hindus choose to participate in the popular customs of Halloween.[210] Other Hindus, such as Soumya Dasgupta, have opposed the celebration on the grounds that Western holidays like Halloween have "begun to adversely affect our indigenous festivals."[211]

Neopaganism
There is no consistent rule or view on Halloween amongst those who describe themselves as Neopagans or Wiccans. Some Neopagans do not observe Halloween, but instead observe Samhain on 1 November,[212] some neopagans do enjoy Halloween festivities, stating that one can observe both "the solemnity of Samhain in addition to the fun of Halloween". Some neopagans are opposed to the celebration of Hallowe'en, stating that it "trivializes Samhain",[213] and "avoid Halloween, because of the interruptions from trick or treaters."[214] The Manitoban writes that "Wiccans don’t officially celebrate Halloween, despite the fact that 31 Oct. will still have a star beside it in any good Wiccan’s day planner. Starting at sundown, Wiccans celebrate a holiday known as Samhain. Samhain actually comes from old Celtic traditions and is not exclusive to Neopagan religions like Wicca. While the traditions of this holiday originate in Celtic countries, modern day Wiccans don’t try to historically replicate Samhain celebrations. Some traditional Samhain rituals are still practised, but at its core, the period is treated as a time to celebrate darkness and the dead — a possible reason why Samhain can be confused with Halloween celebrations."[212]



Spread to North America

The annual Greenwich Village Halloween Parade in New York City is the world's largest Halloween parade.[107]
Lesley Bannatyne and Cindy Ott both write that Anglican colonists in the Southern United States and Catholic colonists in Maryland "recognized All Hallow's Eve in their church calendars",[108][109] although the Puritans of New England maintained strong opposition to the holiday, along with other traditional celebrations of the established Church, including Christmas.[110] Almanacs of the late 18th and early 19th century give no indication that Halloween was widely celebrated in North America.[111] It was not until mass Irish and Scottish immigration in the 19th century that Halloween became a major holiday in North America.[111] Confined to the immigrant communities during the mid-19th century, it was gradually assimilated into mainstream society and by the first decade of the 20th century it was being celebrated coast to coast by people of all social, racial and religious backgrounds.[112] "In Cajun areas, a nocturnal Mass was said in cemeteries on Halloween night. Candles that had been blessed were placed on graves, and families sometimes spent the entire night at the graveside".[113]
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唐三马 发表于 2016-10-31 13:38
万圣节是我们的孩子避之犹恐不及的东西。

万圣节所宣扬的鬼怪恐怖对孩子幼小的心灵会带来暂时难以显露的创 ...


说的太夸张了。

孩子怕不怕,是看你怎么引导,很多孩子都是轻松愉快滴过这个节的,没你说的那么夸张。

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rayki 发表于 2016-10-31 15:42
这件事本来就是玩的。 没必要这么上纲上线。。 还什么美国文化什么。仔细看看根本就是苏格兰的节日。后来流 ...



同意,太多人上纲上线!

这个节的意义就是让孩子在普通的日子里快乐一下!

这个帖子里有几位分享了自己的经验,说自己的孩子从不敢出去要糖,到大大方方滴敲门,这难道不是孩子的进步吗?让孩子练练胆,和邻居打个交道,也是社交的一种,我觉得很不错。

还有说鬼怪可怕的,如果父母引导的好,能轻松愉快滴对孩子讲解,说不定孩子能若然接受;越是藏着掖着,孩子越觉得神秘可怕。



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我家宝宝被吓着了,明年这个节日不出门。