现在不守规矩的人还牛逼的很哦

ucxpikpo

Aladeen 发表于 2019-5-27 12:45
规矩上支持LZ，这个口就算是可以出可以进的，对面摆的车位也不对。他这样停在正中间，本来可以从容开过2车 ...

牛省交规允许在从property上路时跨越双实线。

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 00:14
牛省交规允许在从property上路时跨越双实线。

Exceptions to keeping to the left of a dividing line
Drivers are permitted to cross a single dividing line enter or leave a road. See examples below.

乱开的底气原来是"交规" 允许

ucxpikpo

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 07:04
Exceptions to keeping to the left of a dividing line
Drivers are permitted to cross a single divid ...

澳大利亚每个州都有自己的交通法，新南威尔士州的交通法的规定：

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... part11/div2/rule134

134   Exceptions to keeping to the left of a dividing line
(1)  This rule applies to a driver on a road with a dividing line.
Note. Dividing line is defined the Dictionary.
(2)  If the dividing line is a single broken dividing line only, or a broken dividing line to the left of a single continuous dividing line, or 2 parallel broken dividing lines, the driver may drive to the right of the dividing line:
(a)  to overtake another driver, or
(b)  to perform a U-turn, unless another rule would prohibit the driver performing the U-turn.
Note 1. Overtake is defined the Dictionary.
Note 2. A driver must not overtake another driver unless the driver has a clear view of any approaching traffic, and it is safe to overtake the other driver—see rule 140.
(3)  If the dividing line is a single continuous line or broken dividing line, or a broken dividing line to the left or right of a single continuous dividing line, or 2 parallel broken dividing lines, the driver may drive to the right of the dividing line:
(a)  to enter or leave the road, or
(b)  to enter a part of the road of one kind from a part of the road of another kind (for example, moving to or from a service road or emergency stopping lane), or
(c)  to park in angle parking on the opposite side of the road provided that the driver does not need to perform a U-turn to reach the parking area.
Note 1. Angle parking, overtake, parking area and U-turn are defined in the Dictionary.
Note 2. Emergency stopping lane is defined in rule 95, and service road is defined in the Dictionary.
(3–1)  Without limiting subrule (2) or (3), a driver on a road with a dividing line (whether or not continuous) may drive to the right of the dividing line to enter or leave the road by the shortest practicable route.
Note. This subrule is an additional NSW subrule. There is no corresponding subrule in rule 134 of the Australian Road Rules.

Dictionary

dividing line means a road marking formed by a line, or 2 parallel lines, whether broken or continuous, designed to indicate the parts of the road to be used by vehicles travelling in opposite directions.

ucxpikpo

iuij 发表于 2019-5-28 07:10
咬文嚼字 口舌之争 匹夫之勇

这里是法治国家，你不喜欢可以去别的地方。

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 13:20
澳大利亚每个州都有自己的交通法，新南威尔士州的交通法的规定：

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/# ...

自己上rms网站去看法规吧

ucxpikpo

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 11:28
自己上rms网站去看法规吧

RMS是行政机构，我贴的是法律，是新南威尔士州议会通过的文本。行政机构不得违反议会的立法。

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 13:29
RMS是行政机构，我贴的是法律，是新南威尔士州议会通过的文本。行政机构不得违反议会的立法。 ...

你自己贴的这个法律里已经写的很清楚了，sub rule（3-1）是在（3）之下的好不好？

(3)  If the dividing line is a single continuous line or broken dividing line, or a broken dividing line to the left or right of a single continuous dividing line, or 2 parallel broken dividing lines, the driver may drive to the right of the dividing line

哪一个是符合双实线了？

大饼

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 00:13
停车场的逆行和马路上的逆行在交通法里是两回事。

双实线的确可以转，不过停车场还是澳洲的停车场，难道可以右行？

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 13:29
RMS是行政机构，我贴的是法律，是新南威尔士州议会通过的文本。行政机构不得违反议会的立法。 ...

再给你贴一条，自己看看清楚，双实线允许的情况，别嘴巴老

(2)  A driver on a road with a dividing line must drive to the left of the dividing line, except as permitted under rule 134 or 139 (2).
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. Rule 134 deals with driving to the right of the dividing line to overtake another vehicle, to enter or leave a road, or to move from one part of the road to another. Rule 139 (2) deals with driving to the right of the dividing line to avoid an obstruction.
The effect of this subrule, in relation to continuous dividing lines, is as follows:
(a)  in the case of a dividing line that is only a single continuous dividing line, or that is a broken dividing line to the right of a single continuous dividing line, a driver may only drive to the right of such a line in the circumstances set out in rules 134 (3) and 139 (2), as supplemented by rule 139 (3),
(b)  in the case of a dividing line that is a single continuous dividing line to the right of a broken dividing line, a driver may only drive to the right of such a line in the circumstances set out in rules 134 (2), 134 (3) and 139 (2),
(c)  in the case of a dividing line that is 2 parallel continuous dividing lines, a driver may only drive to the right of such a line in the circumstances set out in rule 139 (2), as supplemented by rule 139 (3).

iuij

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 13:22
这里是法治国家，你不喜欢可以去别的地方。

对牛弹琴

ozkids2011

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-27 23:49
你是怎么得出加油站的路受道路法规管理这个结论的？

自己去路局网站查吧，加油站的路和快餐店的DRIVE THRU一样

ucxpikpo

大饼 发表于 2019-5-28 12:00
双实线的确可以转，不过停车场还是澳洲的停车场，难道可以右行？

停车场内的道路不属于Australian Road Rules的管辖范围。

ucxpikpo

ozkids2011 发表于 2019-5-28 13:18
自己去路局网站查吧，加油站的路和快餐店的DRIVE THRU一样

你把法律贴出来呀。

ucxpikpo

iuij 发表于 2019-5-28 12:50
对牛弹琴

你喜欢吃草？

ucxpikpo

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 12:09
再给你贴一条，自己看看清楚，双实线允许的情况，别嘴巴老

(2)  A driver on a road with a dividing li ...

法盲只有见了法官才会落泪。

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 15:42
法盲只有见了法官才会落泪。

你自己贴的法律，请继续嘴巴老

ucxpikpo

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 13:49
你自己贴的法律，请继续嘴巴老

侬自家看弗懂英文还勒了箇耷出洋相：

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... part11/div2/rule134

134   Exceptions to keeping to the left of a dividing line

Exceptions就是可以跨线个意思。

(3–1)  Without limiting subrule (2) or (3), a driver on a road with a dividing line (whether or not continuous) may drive to the right of the dividing line to enter or leave the road by the shortest practicable route.
Note. This subrule is an additional NSW subrule. There is no corresponding subrule in rule 134 of the Australian Road Rules.

Without limiting subrule (2) or (3)就是弗限制(2)跟(3)里可以跨线个意思，勒箇个基础廊再添加一条可以跨线个情况。

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 16:01
侬自家看弗懂英文还勒了箇耷出洋相：

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/regulation/2014/758/ ...

Section 132 里适用范围写的很清楚了，就你这个法律，自己去看

ucxpikpo

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 14:14
Section 132 里适用范围写的很清楚了，就你这个法律，自己去看

首先箇个弗叫Section，叫Rule。箇耷Rule 132是baseline，而Rule 134是Rule 132个豁免情况，OK？

iamyi

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 16:22
首先箇个弗叫Section，叫Rule。箇耷Rule 132是baseline，而Rule 134是Rule 132个豁免情况，OK？ ...

请继续嘴巴老，请继续洋泾浜

ak47m16npc

现在知道为什么澳州人讨厌华人了吧？把国内的臭毛病都带到国外了

zunreal

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 15:41
停车场内的道路不属于Australian Road Rules的管辖范围。

这个属于胡说，自己去查交规中Road的定义

zunreal

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 14:09
再给你贴一条，自己看看清楚，双实线允许的情况，别嘴巴老

(2)  A driver on a road with a dividing li ...

NSW可以跨越双实线转弯进入或者离开道路， 你这个交规指的是能否跨越双实线逆行超车之类的

ucxpikpo

zunreal 发表于 2019-5-28 14:41
这个属于胡说，自己去查交规中Road的定义

我说的是逆行的问题：

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov. ... part11/div2/rule129

129   Keeping to the far left side of a road
(1)  A driver on a road (except a multi-lane road) must drive as near as practicable to the far left side of the road.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
Note. Multi-lane road is defined in the Dictionary.
(2)  This rule does not apply to the rider of a motor bike.
Note. Motor bike is defined in the Dictionary.
(3)  In this rule:
road does not include a road related area.
Note. Road related area includes the shoulder of a road—see rule 13.

Part 2  Division 1  Rule 13
13   What is a road related area
(1)  A road related area is any of the following:
(a)  an area that divides a road,
(b)  a footpath or nature strip adjacent to a road,
(c)  an area that is not a road and that is open to the public and designated for use by cyclists or animals,
(d)  an area that is not a road and that is open to or used by the public for driving, riding or parking vehicles.
Note. Vehicle is defined in rule 15.
(2)  However, unless the contrary intention appears, a reference in these Rules (except in this Division) to a road related area includes a reference to:
(a)  an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, to be a road related area for these Rules, or
(b)  any shoulder of a road, or
(c)  any other area that is a footpath or nature strip as defined in the Dictionary,
but does not include a reference to an area so far as the area is declared, under another law of this jurisdiction, not to be a road related area for these Rules.
Note 1. Shoulder is defined in rule 12.
Note 2. The Minister administering the Act may, by order under section 18 of that Act, declare that provisions of the road transport legislation do not apply to a road or do apply to a specified area of the State that is open to or used by the public. The road transport legislation includes these Rules.

ucxpikpo

iamyi 发表于 2019-5-28 14:31
请继续嘴巴老，请继续洋泾浜

就事论事，你是不是没有话说了？

ozkids2011

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 15:41
你把法律贴出来呀。

Australian Road Rules

Part 2  Division 1  Rule 11
Australian Road Rules apply to vehicles and road users on roads and road-related areas

Part 2  Division 1  Rule 13 What is a road-related area
(1)  A road-related area is any of the following:
(d)  an area that is not a road and that is open to or used by the public for driving, riding or parking vehicles.



这个门口有个貌似单行道的标志，建议楼主举报对方一下。这种乱开车又不讲礼貌的人需要一点教训。

zunreal

ucxpikpo 发表于 2019-5-28 17:11
我说的是逆行的问题：

https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/regulation/2014/758/part11/div2/ru ...

我回的是你说的管辖范围的错误