房东逼房，该怎么办？

第一代移民

原帖由 休 于 2006-10-19 09:50 发表
你这种分租形式,无合同,按这里默认的规距,14天.按你说他还放高利贷,这种人有黑社会背景,你要小心.一般来说十四天足够时间找房,犹其在十月份,搞不懂你为啥要拖.

现在我们的问题是他明天要强行让我搬出。我并不是不接受找房的要求。
我是想避免明天发生那样的事

第一代移民

原帖由 Qshop 于 2006-10-19 12:08 发表



为了不必要的麻烦,记得今天晚上把值钱的东西先放到你朋友家去.

明天你们都上班,不知道你的黑心房东会作出的什么来.....

谢谢，还是要防范一下

51886

原帖由 第一代移民 于 2006-10-19 09:39 发表

从那里能查到是60天还是14天呢？
难道没有明文规定吗？我现在迫切的想知道这个
请知道的筒子指点。我在墨尔本。

这是一个政府的部门发的册子。仔细读一读，你也可以给她们打电话，英语不好可以要翻译，电话号码都在册子里。不管结果如何，都要告他，否则他不知道还要欺负都烧中国人！如果是我，早就给他好果子吃了！
一位不会上船附件，告诉你一个网址：http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au，然后找到左边的renting，点击renting，在选forms and publications,点击forms and publications，最后在这个网页上点击the chinese version，把文件下载。
这个小册子有可能要全背下来。
祝好运！

liquidator

正常的是房东提前60天书面通知房客变更租房条款.
房客变更，提前21天通知房东。

休

Boarder or lodger

If the landlord keeps overall control of the house, including your room, then you are likely to be a boarder or a lodger. The most typical situation is of course hostels and boarding houses, where you rent a room and can use common facilities but generally have no say in the overall running of the establishment. You might also be considered a boarder or lodger if you rent a room in an owner-occupied house, or in a place run by a head tenant who takes full responsibility for the house (for example providing furniture, paying all bills etc).

If you receive services from your landlord such as cleaning, washing or providing linen, this may mean you are a lodger. However, it is not necessary to receive these services to be classified as a lodger.

If your landlord provides meals, you would be classified as a boarder with the same rights (or lack of them) as a lodger.

Boarders and lodgers are not covered by the Residential Tenancies Act (RTA) and have virtually no protection under the law. For example, they can be evicted with very little notice and do not have the right to apply to the Consumer, Trader and Tenancy Tribunal to protect their housing. However, though boarders and lodgers are specifically excluded from the Residential Tenancies Act, the Act does not actually define what a boarder or a lodger is. Consequently, some residents of boarding houses and share houses have been able to establish before the Tribunal they were tenants and gain the protection of the RTA. If you are unsure of your tenancy status please contact your local tenancy service (See Contact Points).

http://www.rlc.org.au/sharehousing/thelegal.html

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第一代移民

原帖由 休 于 2006-10-19 13:49 发表
Boarder or lodger

If the landlord keeps overall control of the house, including your room, then you are likely to be a boarder or a lodger. The most typical situation is of course hostels and bo ...

晕死，就是说我们这种情况是根本不受法律保护的了。
那如果这样，我也不能道council去投诉房屋的情况了？

PeterWay

同情lz,但你告了他，也是loss vs loss, 意思不大，不如把精力放到自己找房上，供参考了

休

你的法律依据是他收你房租到1/11,这就你们之间有合同,违约他要赔偿损失.
至于到council 投诉是每一个本地居民的权利,但他有没有违反规则就不知了.因各地规定不同.

第一代移民

原帖由 peterwei 于 2006-10-19 14:04 发表
同情lz,但你告了他，也是loss vs loss, 意思不大，不如把精力放到自己找房上，供参考了

是的，已经开始找了，周六可以去看看。

第一代移民

原帖由 休 于 2006-10-19 14:07 发表
你的法律依据是他收你房租到1/11,这就你们之间有合同,违约他要赔偿损失.
至于到council 投诉是每一个本地居民的权利,但他有没有违反规则就不知了.因各地规定不同.

谢谢回答

黑黑

LZ is not a boarder, he is sub-tenant. ( see http://www.rlc.org.au/sharehousing/glossary.html )


Subtenant: a tenant whose name is not on the tenancy agreement who pays rent to a head tenant rather than the landlord/agent. As a subtenant, you have the same rights and responsibilities as other tenants under the Residential Tenancies Act, and the head tenant has the rights and responsibilities of a landlord.  

Boarder: a lodger who has meals provided by the landlord or head tenant. Boarders and lodgers are not covered by the Residential Tenancies Act and have virtually no protection in relation to their housing. See lodgers below for more details.

黑黑

what if a sub-tenant? see   http://www.rlc.org.au/sharehousing/movingout_scenario5.html


(c) ...Your flatmates are trying to kick you out,  and you're a subtenant

You must be given the correct notice by your head tenant, that is if no fixed term was ever entered into, 60 days notice in writing unless you have breached the lease, in which case only 14 days are required. (These notice provisions are the same as the notice that a landlord has to give a head tenant - see Scenario 1(a)).


If your head tenant doesn't give you the written notice, you should ask for it. The notice period should start from the date you receive the letter. If you are being asked to leave because you have breached the lease, the letter should give the reason and details for the termination, for example, you have damaged the house or done something illegal on the premises etc.
If you don't leave by the notice date, your head tenant will need to take you to the Consumer, Trader and Tenancy Tribunal for a termination order. (See Scenario 1(a) for an outline of the eviction procedure.)

黑黑

so. you are protected by law,  第一代移民 , hope this time I am right.

黑黑

忘了问了, 是房东自己的房子吗?

黑黑

MS偶又错了...

第一代移民

原帖由 黑黑 于 2006-10-19 14:59 发表
忘了问了, 是房东自己的房子吗?

房子好像是房东和别人共有的。

黑黑

是lodger(房主并提供洗床单等服务, 有时候从head-tenant处分租也算), boarder (房主,并提供meal)就不受保护,
是sub-tenant(付钱给head-tenant,  并share facilities) 就受保护..  

没辙了, 你的情况很难分, 偶是彻底糊涂了.  
还是打电话吧. 几分钟就明白了.

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第一代移民

木头

不知道lz怎么样了？一切可好？

yuyu

找fairtrade ,应该有用的。就告诉房东你要去找fairtrade 。上次我们有个房客也是这样，房东听了也怕了。就延长些时间了。一般2周。

villa

原帖由 木头 于 2006-10-20 19:45 发表
不知道lz怎么样了？一切可好？

是啊，周五到了，楼主房子的事最后到底结局如何？有空给我们大伙通个气啊。



:si9

pda4me

折中黑心的房东,支持上告,让他破产!!!

第一代移民

因为筒子们的回答和咨询了一个当地人，心里有了一些底，下午我给他打电话落实是否他要带人来（如果他态度要强硬，我就提前做一些准备），结果他反问我你说呢。听了他这么一说，我估计他是不会这么做了。
晚上根我说照顾我，让我们多住一个月，可以到12月初搬。此次事件基本告一段落。
现在才更认清了这个房东的嘴脸，外强中干，完全是欺软怕硬，外带恐吓威胁，能吓住一个就是一个。
现在首要任务是搬家了。还好时间应该是足够了。

再次向关心和支持我的筒子们表示感谢。。。。。。。。。。。。

第一代移民

考虑到初来乍到，多一事不如少一事，而且对相关方面的政策和法规也一无所知，所以决定暂时还是算了吧。
希望不会让关心的同志们失望。

希曼

呵呵，你吓唬他了嘛？说要告了？他怎么就变乖了呢？

Seiya

如果楼主没吓唬他的话,那么房东应该也是网友了.

第一代移民

只说他要采取过激行为，我也会相应采取措施，最后是两败俱伤，他不一定会比我好多少。
也许是他本就知道他房子不符合要求，心里发虚。
不过无论如何，也要感谢筒子的回复帮助。

wideye

想开点，退一步海阔天空.........免得自己心情不好...

tyxzh

这样的房主太可恶了，就是典型的欺软怕硬的，希望lz尽快找到房子，最后不要忘了把你住的那个黑心房东加进黑名单以免大家将来再上当受骗

第一代移民